Nazi Germany the victor of WWII

Who thinks that germany could have won wwii? please support idea with facts.
Personally, im glad that they did not win but its an interesting topic in history.

 

personally i think that they would have lost like they did
they were out numbered and out matched

 

Out of my knowledge, germany in 1941 invaded the Soviet union with three army groups north, center, and south. the had 3 million troops on the front.
2 million were german and the rest axis troops. compared to 5 million soviet troops yes they were out numbered but not out matched. by lATE 1941 THE GERMANS had achieved air superiority and were out side the gates of moscow and were stalled by slight rain wich did not permit their tanks to move. so personally i think they would have won even if outnumbered.

 

They could have won, but they tried to fight too many world powers at once.

If they had fought one war at a time, they could have had a better chance.

 

exacly
theres no way that they could have taken them all at once
but early in the war, 1941, they were winning and feared to win the war

 

Agreed. If they hadn't invaded Russia, and Japan had never attacked Pearl Harbor (although that factor was not under Hitler's control), I could see them winning the war, possibly even taking over the world.

 

Well if they didn't try to counter every weapon we came up with they could have fed their people and had the man power to win. And even then it would take a miracle. In the circumstances they were in there's no way that they could have won. You'd have to change their position in the war completely for them to have a chance.

 

i think that there was definitely a possibility they could have won under a more mentally-stable leader... but the forced against them in the Alliance were just too well-coordinated and strong

 

yea hitler was mentaly unstable, but remenber that the germans had thrown the british of the continent, and were only concentrating on the eastern front. were the russians had already lost 6 armys trying to stop them from reaching moscow. so in reality they had the upper hand, and were a hairs width from winning.

 

what do you mean by that?
he had problems?

 

You mean besides megalomania?

 

There is a great game called 'Turnng Point, The Fall of Liberty.' It describes how Winston Churchill was hit by a car crossing Fifth Avenue. He walked with a cane for the rest of his life. But he still managed to help Britain fight back Germany. In the game, he was killed by that car. Without him, Britain was defeated by Nazi Germany, who took over Europe, Asia, and Africa. Then, Hitler set his sights on America. And for the second time, America was attacked on its own soil. Eventually, Germany occupied America, but there was much resistance left.


I believe that, based on that, Germany's ony chance would have been to take out Churchill.

 

i meant he was crazy and sorry for cursing but he was a piece of **** for trying to exterminate a whole religion.

 

Not to mention that no force on the planet has ever been able to exterminate a religion once it takes root... I mean, there are still (very few) worshipers of the ancient Egyptian religions! Just another sign of insanity, I guess.

 

what is that?
i never knew that hitler was at bad mind state (besides his nazi views)

 

Megalomania is essentially an obsession with power of any sort. The fact that he wanted to take over large tracts of European land in his Drang nach Osten seemed to contribute to his mind state.

 

oh dam
but without that he would have never done all that or gotten that far
its sad how an obsession caused so many deaths and had so many followers

 

Indeed, and to think he would have been a famous artist instead of modern synonym for "evil".

And Germany at the time after the first world war and before the Nazis was in an honestly sad state. The Treaty of Versailles left the country in the dark, really. The people of Germany wanted an essential revenge, and that is what Hitler and the National Socialists gave them in the way of a "German world". It is simply that the normal German public never knew of the atrocities committed in the concentration camps until the end of the war.

 

Alright. Let's see what I can come up with for this thread.

Stalingrad was the turning point or WW2. After successfully invading Poland in the span of a month, Hitler set his sights on Stalingrad. Not Moscow. If he had gone to Moscow, he would have had a good chance of winning. But Hitler wanted Stalingrad for the glory of conquering the city bearing the enemy's name. (And we all know that Hitler had as much a hatred for the Russians as he did for the Jews. For 'stabbing Germany in the back at the end of WW1.) The reason Stalingrad failed was that Hitler did not send the Wehrmacht soldiers in with supplies nor did he foresee the Russian winter. So the soldiers were clad in summer uniforms. Most of them froze to death.

As for the claim that Hitler was just seeking to eliminate a religion. That is true, partially. Hitler wanted to eliminate all 'non-German' people. Not just Jews. Gypsies, Russians, Poles, Jehovah's Witnesses, the mentally disabled/handicapped. Yes Hitler even waged war on his own people. The T4 program was the precurser to the concentration camps.

But knowing all this, it seems that Hitler himself is a paradox when you consider the image of the Aryan we see on the Propaganda posters. Short, brown hair, brown eyes, average build. You'd more expect Reinhard Heydrich to be the one to fit the bill. (And he was primed to be Hitler's successor until he was assassinated in the summer of '42.)

I Believe that the Germans could have won the war had they not been eliminating their own potential fighters and had not been squandering resources to put toward the camps and the trains. Trains were originally for transporting troops were put to use transporting prisoners from one camp to the next.

The Nazis had a terrible focus. Had they been focused on fighting the war, even on two fronts, they could have won the war.

 

If he'd focused on countries other than Soviet Russia which is what messed him up then he'd won
by attacking Russia they lost an ally.. major one