Birth by Sleep My Unbirth Theory (oh lord)

ok...so i was really bored so i decied to play some KH2 to pass the time, and while i was fighting Xemnas he said something that puzzeled me...

he was talking about getting more hearts...and more rage and haterd (remeber that part?)

and that got me thinking about Unbirths

Heartless- are made from the darkness in peoples hearts
Nobodies- the empty shells/will of a person
Unbirth- the emotions of the person

if u put these 3 things together they all come back to one central thing

the heart

so maybe an Unbirth is born when a person that yeilds to the darkness in there heart. and there emotions are released and take a physical form.

now you might say, well why arnt there anymore unbirths, ur guess is as good as mine, cause even if is the soul like many of u say, that still doesnt explain why there not around for kh1-2

so yea...theres my idea

 

Well, I don't think so... It doesn't really fit with the emotions part because there would be still Unbirths around in KH 1 and 2... BUT I could be wrong, too. It's just my view of your theory ^^
The only thing I can think of how Unbirths are made is that only Keyblade users can turn into Unbirths...

For getting power from the keyblade maybe the user will have to pay a high price for it... so yeah if getting killed or whatever it would mean the user turns into an Unbirth

You can see that in the trailer there are lying MANY keyblades (of keyblade users that have fallen in battle?)

But my theory has its weakpoint; because Sora turned into a heartless in KH 1... so there would be an Unbirth of him.

 

The Unbirths are, in essence, the opposite of human life. They either created when lives were born or when a human being dies. (Similar to Heartless when a person loses a heart.)

 

i really think that the problem with EVER unbirth theory is...


what the hell happend to the unbirths


im starting to get the feeling that maybe we are thinking AHEAD and not BEHIND

im think that the unbriths dont have any connection with the Heartless... i think that the "soul" and other forms that peopel think the unbirths are, are actually going to be the enemy for KH3 thay way it completes the trinity (body heart and soul)

 

I think your concept of the unbirth is right, Nomura said something about the unbirths relating to emotions, I don't remember full detail, but I do remember him talking about unbirths (he said the new enemy at the time) being related to emotions.

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I think your concept of the unbirth is right, Nomura said something about the unbirths relating to emotions, I don't remember full detail, but I do remember him talking about unbirths (he said the new enemy at the time) being related to emotions.
On the other hand: The unbirths were the first enemy, because they came first in the Kingdom Hearts timeline, and the nobodies are the 3rd enemy because I think it was in an Ansem Report and I know for sure it was written as one of the hundreds of pop-up messages in the ASAS/Deep Dive secret ending(s).

Yeah, so you lose your heart you become a heartless, your body becomes a nobody, and your spirit probably makes an unbirth logically through the process of elimination, plus the fact that there is three different enemies, and each has their own characteristic about what made them. So I'm saying that you are 50% right about the unbirths being made from emotions unless you meant being made from a person's spirit, then I think you are 99.99% right.​

 

Well it is one of three things that we can clearly see: emotions, those who never had a chance to exist or the soul.

 

I know what you mean by that, but the nobodies are the enemy that never had a chance to exist stated by Xemnas, Ansem, Nomura, and so on. There was always hints about the nobodies throughout the Kingdom Hearts series, but NOTHING was EVER said about unbirths. Honestly, I think it's just another reason to get people to buy Birth By Sleep (I want to buy it for the story though and to play as characters that look like they really do know what they are doing beside Riku but you can only play as him in CoM and one time in Kingdom Hearts II) but I have to admit that the mystery behind the unbirths makes me want to buy it even more, which is what they did with Kingdom Hearts II, they added nobodies because it was another reason to buy it (I bought Final Mix+ just for the data matches and Terra...and Re:CoM), the nobodies could have been enemies in Kingdom Hearts since they were around at that time, but since Nomura said that Birth By Sleep has a lot more story to it, I'm pretty sure there will be a reason behind why the unbirths weren't in any of the present games.​

 

But it is said that the Nobodies has the soul.
I suggest we wait until it gets released.

 

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but anyway, its really to tell...im really leaning on the fact that the unbirths are totaly not conntected to the heartless at all!

 

sounds reasonable except that a heart is what gives emotions to a person
so a heartless would have the emotions of that person.
Unless yr sayin the emotions leave the heart as it becomes a heartless to take taht physical form

 

maybe it only happens with a really strong heart, such as Sora or Kairi. Like a Princess of Heart or something.

 

I have a theory based on what the unbirth emblem represents. the emblem is of an outline of a heart split into thirds. I believe it is split into thirds to represent the three parts of life, heart, body, and soul. by looking at the emblem, I think it means that an unbirth is a creature born when all three parts of life are torn apart simultaneously.

 

You eliminate the possiblities of more Kingdom Hearts games in the future. I actually think that there are 13 beings. 14 if you count the inexistant ones (Yes, there are more than one inexistant beings, and they all add up to '1'. Do not ask me how, it makes sense. Trust me.). Thirteen components of the heart...interesting. I made that up on the spot. I guess I like bull'ing stuff.