Kingdom Hearts II Little things we forget

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by tkato, Apr 14, 2007.

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  1. tkato Merlin's Housekeeper

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    well i started thinking over and over about kingdom hearts, 1 and 2 aswell as the future new series... everything in the KH universe is connected to the next game in-line, for example, sora's intro in the game where he falls from the sky like a meteor and kairi is on the beach is the ending of KH2.
    With the release of KH2:FM+ alot of things are becoming to look like hints.

    so this thread is to point out the things we forget, and im sure at least on of them will be present on the next game.
    The first question in my mind is Roxas and Axel feelings, they do not have an heart since they are nobodies, but they appear to have feelings and moods, Saix Xemnas and all of the Org memmbers seem to have a stright look and a stright mind while Roxas and Axel's have feelings which effect thier judgement.

    Another thing is the keybladers in the new secret ending, clearly the 3 knights have FAKE keyblades, a true keyblade has a keychain, the bald man has one (which i tried to capture the image of it many times but i can't get a clear look), the black knight has a fake keyblade aswell.
    the other wielder is Mickey, his chain is barely visible but you can see it for a second between his legs.
    in the first KH it was hinted that there is a legend that one wielder brought chaos and one happines, i always assumed the wielder of good was sora, but this situation where a true wielder of the keyblade is a dark character seems to fit the story more.

    The Crown, it was said before the crown has a large role in the story, Sora wears it, Roxas draw it, the 3 knights have it curved on thier chest and thanks to KH2:FM+ sora gets a crown on his head.

    The Chasers, chasers right now could be everything... for me chasers can be a manifst of a heartless and a nobody joint together because they have the same original, or it could be the people who chase the keyblade (via imatating it like we seen in the secret ending where alot of fake keyblades and mis-shaped keyblades appear), if im right about the nobody\heartless that can explain the bald man splitting to a dark form while his body still has the sahpe of a nobody.

    and the last thing i noticed, there'sa symbol on bald man keyblade of an eye, the same eye can be found on the Way to Dawn and Soul Eater.
     
  2. Thir13en King's Apprentice

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    not to be rude but you've pointed out some of the most discussed things on here...

    And on the subject of stuff we forget we shall turn to KH1

    Rememberin HB when we see Kairi when she was little talking to an old woman (maybe grandmother) I don't have the exact words with me but I'll look them up and post them later, the most I know is that this is where we first here of the good and bad keybladers
     
  3. shingo_the_pest Destiny Islands Resident

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    There's an interesting discussion going on about a form of existance that goes beyond Nobodies, Heartless, and Somebodies. Briefly in this discussion, it's mentioned that Axel and Roxas being able to feel may be related to Awakening.

    The discussion can be found here. Read the whole thing, or just search the word "Axel" to find the brief tidbits relating to him and Roxas.
    http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=8731&page=4#34
    http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=8731&page=4#35
     
  4. Kanji Traverse Town Homebody

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    Concerning Roxas' feelings, I believe it's because he was linked to Sora's heart ; and since Sora's heart had not drowned in darkness, Roxas could experience something like feelings because of this link. Except for Naminé, all other Nobodies' hearts remained Heartless : members of Organization XIII could not reach them in the darkness.

    As for Axel, it's probably for the same reason : when he met Roxas he tried to seem friendly (since he can't be friendly without a heart), and a form of bond was born between the two. Even if it was based on a lie (members of Organization XIII act like they have a personality, pretending to have a heart and feelings, like Xemnas exaggerating them), it allowed Axel to be linked to Roxas and then to Sora's heart. Just like all other Nobodies, Axel remembered his heart and pretended he had one, but thanks to the link with Sora's heart it began to seem real to him, to feel real. He experienced feelings through another's heart. That's friendship for you...
     
  5. shingo_the_pest Destiny Islands Resident

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    Links between characters are very strong in KH. When Sora forgot himself, everyone forgot him. But that connection is through hearts. Kairi's connection to Sora, Sora's connection to everyone on Destiny Islands...

    If Roxas is able to stay in contact with his heart even though it's not with him, then maybe Axel was able to touch his again, with a lot of emotional stimulation.

    On the trinity circle that Roxas draws to get to the lower floor of the Twilight Town mansion, there are three symbols: the heartless symbol, the nobody symbol, and a third one that is mostly obsured. It could be a crown, if the bottom of the crown was very rounded.

    So the crown could represent whatever that trinity set represents. Heart (heartless), Body (nobodies), and Soul/Mind (the rounded crown). Or maybe Dark, Nothingness, and Light.
     
  6. Roxas- PARTYMAN MORE LIKE HOMOVAN 73M SUCK MY B****!

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    All these good theories are starting to hurt my brain. really........
     
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