KH2.5 and New Content

Discussion in 'General & Upcoming Kingdom Hearts' started by A Zebra, May 11, 2013.

  1. A Zebra Chaser

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    We all know KH2.5 is coming now, so here's my question to you: how do you think it'll be handled?
    Despite contrary claims, KH1.5 did add new content, 358/2 Days themed keyblade cards. It stands to reason they might go a step or two further with 2.5
    Do you think Birth by Sleep's online will be fleshed out? Their capes reintegrated? Even MORE stuff for KH2FM? Maybe some new abilities, like the ones they added for KH1? Do you think Re:Coded will be done as HD cutscenes, or will they remake the gameplay? Personally I'm hoping for gameplay, because that's the star of Re:Coded and everyone knows it
     
  2. Airi Ban King's Apprentice

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    I could see them adding in capes. That's a big want from the fans and something small that the PS3 could handle where as the PSP couldn't. I also would like something new in Re:Coded. Don't know what they would add though.
     
  3. Shift Chaser

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    Like Nomura said, they don't want to add any big elements to the games, they just want the collection to be HD and with Trophy support.

    The days themed cards are the exact same as the KH2 cards that were already there, they just replaced the images and the name, everything else was arealdy coded so it wasn't that big a deal;
    KH2FM already has everything that was added to KH1(Combo Master/Zero Exp), which were only added because they're staple now anyways;
    The capes on BBS were said to cause a huge framerate drop (Though that maybe be just the PSP, but I don't honestly see them bothering to add them back);
    And last, they'd need to remake Mirage Arena completely so it works with the PS3, it doesn't have ad-hoc so they'd need a new netcode if they plan to make it Online, and since Square doesn't really have that many online multiplayer games, they'd either need to buy or make one from scratch, either way it should be pretty expensive.

    With that said, I reeeeeeeeally hope they decide to make Mirage Arena online, I'd totally pay 60$ for that alone.
     
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    I'd say the intro movie is reason enough to add the capes back. The CGI movie STILL HAS TAV wearing capes, despite them being removed from the gameplay
     
  5. Hidden Smithery King's Apprentice

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    Honestly, if anything, I can actually see them removing the multiplayer part of BBS completely and toning down the overall difficulty of the Mirage Arena. My reasoning being that they axed multiplayer from Re:CoM when they remade CoM on the PS2. Since BBS' multiplayer is even more advanced (up to 6 player support, including Rumble racing and a board game), and the fact that it doesn't have Ad-Hoc, I'm not holding out too much hope to see the multiplayer return. If it does come back, and online, I'd be very pleased. It's possible and I hope to see it, but I have my doubts. I've already spoken at length about my opinion on readding capes to the models; I'll just say that while it's a somewhat simple thing they could add, I personally hope they don't.

    I hope they fix up some inconsistencies in Ansem's Reports, but I don't see much they are likely to do for Kh2. It's pretty much perfect the way it is; they COULD have Terra's VO come in to voice the Lingering Will, but since they didn't do that for Xemnas in KH1, I doubt this will happen.

    As for Re:Coded, if they wanted to make it a "video volume" like 358/2 Days, I wouldn't expect it to be very long; the rendered cutscenes take up around 30 to 40 minutes of time, so if you factor in the world specific cutscenes that aren't too specific to the overall story of the game (and could probably be ignored), I'd see, at most, a 1 hour, 30 minute "film." However, if they decide to actually make it into a playable game (due to the short amount of cutscenes and the fact that most people like the gameplay more than the story), then it will get some sort of HD treatment but won't add much in the way of new content (outside of textures/models/music they already have on standby that they can recycle from the other HD games).
     
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    That's my reasoning. Days would be difficult to remake because it would require a completely new engine, but Re:Coded is very similar to BBS, so I'd imagine it would be significantly easier to accomplish
     
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    The only thing I want is a better functioning Mirage Arena. It had a lot of little issues that weren't so much problems as just things that could be fixed given the opportunity. Like not being able to pause the game during single player. Sure the capes would be nice, but it doesn't really matter that much to me since the actual game doesn't have them.

    I really don't want the to add anything else to KH2FM. It already has borderline too much content. Any more plus the trophies would be overkill.
     
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    Maybe a slightly buffed Xemna fight (the first one at the skyscraper)? Not as strong as the data replica but maybe a slight improvement? A lot of people, myself included, were really disappointed in the first fight. I had more trouble with Luxord honestly.
     
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    Data replicas are intentionally stronger than their counterparts.
    If Xemnas was too strong in that fight, the following 4/5 would be pointless. It's perfect as is.
     
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    The movie was done before they realized they couldn't have both the capes and multiplayer, and changing the movie would be a waste of resources.
    I'm not saying it's impossible though, they might have been something removed far into the development, which would make adding them easier and less time consuming.
    However If they do come back I hope there's some kind of option to remove them, too used to running around without them and they'd probably get in the way.
     
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    Considering half the CGI opening is brand new, I find it hard to believe it would have been hard to do, they were just being lazy.
    Besides, I doubt they'll remove the cape from Terra in KH2
     
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    The hafl new part doesn't include capes at all, and the other half that does was done since the KH2FM release, so they didn't bother changing. I guess you can call that lazy, but it's still a waste of time to remake a damn fine animation just to remove some capes.

    And of course not, why would they? I was talking about being able to remove the capes in BBS if they decide to put them back in, as in toggle the capes on/off as you want.
     
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    Yes, but the fact that there's new animation at all is what I'm talking about. If they were willing to spend money on animation for that, this should have been a non-issue.
    It's about continuity. Why would Terra suddenly get a cape in KH2, but never have one in BBS... except during the intro
     
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    For KHIIFM. I want Sephiroth to be a replayable secret boss, if possible. But I highly doubt it. Or to make the difficulty of the bosses slightly harder. It seems that they did so in KHFM with some secret bosses.

    For BbS. An option to include the capes or not. Mirage Arena playable via Infrastructure since Ad-Hoc is not supported on the PS3. Tone down Mysterious Figure's difficulty just to make his attacks slightly easier to dodge (mostly in Terra's case). Terra having something similar to Riku's Dark Roll.

    For Coded. It might be a movie (Even though it has a terrible story... :(). But if they make it into a game. Just make it like BbS/DDD. And they should remove the "hold square button to block on a longer duration" feature since I noticed that only the games from the DS has it only.

    So... Yeah, that's what I want to happen in HD 2.5 Remix if possible.
     
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    I'm just hoping for Mirage Arena online. That's my number one concern. It'd make getting 2.5 that much more worth it.
     
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    It will probably be the same as how 1.5 went, so maybe a secret movie for Kh3. And I originally thought capes + global multiplayer would happen too, though the replies here seem to suggest they might not happen. But since I think Re: Coded will make it in as a game, I doubt there will be anything new for Kh2Fm besides some abilities.
     
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    Oh my god no capes please I hate those things it just so gross no ewww. I'm not even sure why "fans" likes the capes they are just so bad and really annoying. If they add capes how disappointed I'll be for some stupid fabric, cloth, AHHHHHHHHH!! I know because of that cape this time when I fight Terra I'll be kicking his ass the first time instead of the second try. I hate that cape so much I felt nothing but hate for Terra and had to clown him because of that damn cape. I don't get why people want the capes so badly it just doesn't make any sense. If there's an option to have capes on or off ok cool that's fine with me. I know mine will be off, but this way for people who want capes they got them and for those who don't can just turn it off.

    As for the online play they would have to really invest in that which would do them good seeing how you couldn't freaking play BBS online with a buddy unless they were literally right next to you =.= Man if they did that I'd buy the Japanese one and the English one. Plus DAT HD!!!!