Kingdom Hearts II KH improvements

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by Gritz, Oct 29, 2007.

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  1. Gritz Traverse Town Homebody

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    Hello, my fellow Americans and everyone else. I am here to give my TRUE review of KH2. And ways that it could have been better.

    To start things off, I liked KH2. It most definately was not a bad game. But it was dissapointing in many ways.

    The story. This is what irked me. Not necesarily the story, but how much they strayed from it in order to make you expirence Disney's side of he game. In most of the worlds, the disney ones were the only ones that I kept asking myself "Why am I here? How is this important to the overall plot?" What's killing Shan-Yu or Oogie Boogie got to do with the Organization? Why is Maleficent back? What is the point of bringing her back? They spend little time on the actual plot and the majority of time is on the fillers that are the Disney Worlds. I get it! It's Disney/FF mixed. Focus more on the plot. Also, the Disney aspect in this game felt more suffocating and annoying than a fusion of two great things. The fusion rating went allitte like this. 85/15(The scale in Disney's favor). It just felt like a Disney commercial with FF characters thrown in so some guy could say "Ohh, look! There's Cloud." Unlike KH, where the Disney aspect actually contributed to the plot in many impressive ways. I was hoping for a more darker storyline, with the darkness of FF to go hand-in-hand with the light of Disney to remind people that things were gonna be alright in the end somehow. But the light here just felt blinding instead of being tempered by darkness. But the worlds were pretty much the movie with Sora, Don, and Goof thrown in. And then we had to RETURN to complete a pointless errand and the world again. It seems that Disney in this game was useful for nothing more than the nostalgia factor and a time filler. It seems they went out of their way to make the game "kid friendly", forgeting that there are teens who do NOT wanna dance with that rebellious and stupid mermaid, or play with a bear of very little brains and his equally brainless friends. Here are some ways it could have been better.

    1. If Disney is involved in this game, give it a part in the actual plotline than just an image. Cause it seems that if you take away the Disney fillers, You are left with very little.

    2. Give the Disney factor a rest. We get it. Focus on what is relavent. Make the fusion equal. 50% Disney and 50% Final Fantasy. Make it so either side does not feel suffocating.

    3. It's not so much the voice actors fault, but more of what they had to work with. Haley Joel Osmont and others can act, but the script is so lame. Some of the best actors on there get stuck with extremely cheesy, cliche, and gay lines. Who devoted soo much time to "friendship is the BEST this EVA!!" WAY too many friendship lines. Give the actors way less cheese and and I'll be able to play the game without muting my TV many times. Seriously "I guess you think you can psyche me out by saying really random stuff" Who writes this crap?

    This is me finally venting what I thought was wrong with the game. I know it's E-10. But then again, so was Star Wars.
     
  2. Ashwa <3 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    My, my. Not happy with a lot of the game. To me it seems like you really don't like the game all that much (thats just what it sounds like to me!) But I do understand what you're saying...
     
  3. Thebazilly King's Apprentice

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    I completely agree with you. The Disney was just noxious filler in KH2.
     
  4. Repliku Chaser

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    I hear some of your points here about the childishness level of it. I thought it was cute and well, perhaps the last 'youth' based really in friendship etc of the games. KH3 seems like it will be having Riku, Sora and Kairi as older and well, situations change with that. It's going to keep some of the elements of the other three games, and these 3 in between games, but I can see the games try to 'mature' as the 3 do age. All in all, I didn't mind it really, but I do get what you mean.

    Some people like Maleficent or Sephiroth are there because people like them. I believe Maleficent also is part of the plot line even if really she seemed to be kind of not as sinister and more mocked in KH2 than in KH. Her importance dwindled though to the might that was the Organization, and I think that was a point of the story in a way; to show that the former Dark Council even were not a real threat to the Org and/or Sora or Riku this time around. So the bigger threat than the Org is going to be even more of a difficult scenario and perhaps Maleficent knows about it to some degree, considering BBS is being played on Sleeping Beauty's world amongst other places, and Maleficent obviously was at Radiant Gardens after it became Hollow Bastion and Xehanort with the other apprentices went to Darkness.

    I agree that some of the lines for the actors could be better and well, more like teenagers, but I believe they will work that out more in the upcoming events with KH. We have to remember that Sora was asleep for a year so his mentality would still be off even though he grew up some.
     
  5. Arcantress King's Apprentice

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    Yeah, i agree with you on the 'sucky script' thing. "I guess you think you can psyche me out by saying really random stuff!" That was cheesy.
     
  6. Ashwa <3 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Yeah the script could've been worked on because there were a couple of lines that made me face palm
     
  7. Gritz Traverse Town Homebody

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    I like the game. Aside from being too easy, it's fun. But I'm kinda put off by the massive amounts of Disney "kid friendliness".
     
  8. the muffin man Banned

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    I totally agree...Especially with the stupid bear and mermaid part!That,and the gummi ship were the worst things in kh.Overall,it is a good game.
     
  9. Way_2_The_Dawn Traverse Town Homebody

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    I personally think it's because Sora's personality is made to be immature: that's why he says the cheesiest things, and that's why he broke down when he met Riku again. The script was, to be sure, kinda messed-up (I HATED it when they tried to add in a scene from Pirates of the Carribean in the game! There was NO music during it, and it overall felt generic!), but deal with it. The game is already out, and we fans can only suggest what Nomura should do with the next games.

    Edit: Older Sora, Riku, Kairi? The next KH should not even have them around much, considering BBS takes place 10 years in the past!
     
  10. Luka Deafening silence

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    i agree bit it actually should be 80% FF and 20%Disney ^^
     
  11. Gritz Traverse Town Homebody

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    Lol. That's funny. I'd like that too.

    I SOOO wanted Cloud as a real partner. And MORE SECRET BOSS BATTLES!!
     
  12. Alpha Sonix Why so asymmetrical?

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    Yeah, that would never happen. The least they can do is make the story darker, the cheesy lines ruined, Sora has to grow up, I'm glad BBS is being serious and dark.
     
  13. Ashwa <3 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Yeah I see what you're saying and I agree with you but its supposed to be a "kid" game to I suppose...
     
  14. Gritz Traverse Town Homebody

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    Yes, but do they realize how many teens played that game?
     
  15. Repliku Chaser

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    BBS is 10 years in the past. KH3 that may be out later after these filler games, should be in the future. That's what I was referring to. If KH3 doesn't have the 3 of them, I'd be pretty disappointed. I'd like to see them when they are mature enough to not say 'gee whiz'.
     
  16. Gritz Traverse Town Homebody

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    That should have been at 15 and 16. I hope KH3 gets it right.
     
  17. Godlas Traverse Town Homebody

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    they could diffinetly put more final fantasy and organization in it.

    like most world could of had more organization fights in like not fights were you
    kill them but were you take them to ther knees at the end of the fight if you know
    what i meen ;]

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  18. Gritz Traverse Town Homebody

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    I like the way you think! And when they talk about Sora's anger, WHAT ANGER?! His anger is akin to a harmless ladybug. When they talk about anger from Sora, I expect something akin to Kyuubi Naruto and SSJ2 Gohan.
     
  19. KATACHI IS KING!! Hollow Bastion Committee

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    hm yah i agree w/ u. the story of KH1 was better
     
  20. Ashwa <3 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    True, good point
     
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