Just finished mission 43 of Phantom Pain

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  1. Hayabusa Venomous

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    I feel dead inside.

    RIP Frantic Kitten
     
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    *Opens spoiler.*

    *HURRIDLY CLOSES SPOILER.*
     
  3. Hayabusa Venomous

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    That's why it's there :<
     
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    I know. But I had flashbacks.
     
  5. Iskandar King of Conquerors

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    I guess I don't know how bad it really is?
     
  6. Hayabusa Venomous

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    So if Episode 43 is the one that killed my soul, Episode 45 is the one that brought that soul back in fiery rage.

    What an absolute bullshit mission.
     
  7. Jin うごかないで

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    I'm screaming at 45 I hate life right now, I hate Konami , I hate this games lore , I'm just an angry person right now
     
  8. Hayabusa Venomous

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    I can give tips on how I did it if you'd like. It took me 20+ retries so I put it down to a formula.
     
  9. Jin うごかないで

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    No no , I mean as in the cutscene after that mission which explains everything.
     
  10. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Oh yeah that.

    I dunno. I like the story of what occurs (though part of it is very convoluted), but it's terrible to do that mechanically in an open-world game.

    What they should have done is stuck it as part of a long finale mission, like how in Kingdom Hearts you don't continue the game after the big ending, so you don't lose any aspects of the game forever, if that makes sense.
     
  11. Jin うごかないで

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    It does explain a lot of things in all honesty, for example as to why "big boss" doesn't have shrapnel in his head when we see him in the rest of the games? and as to why the DNA test is negative I guess?

    In general I feel like I've got no closure with this series now and with Kojima gone I feel like it'll get the closure it deserves :/
     
  12. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Oh you're talking about Episode 46.

    I liked what occurred there quite a lot. It's a clever twist in my opinion. It retroactively makes Metal Gear 1 and 2 a lot better in my opinion, and adds a lot to what it means being Big Boss (trying to dance around specifics here.)

    I do feel part of the closure for the series, but we already know that the rest of this game was cut, and it certainly feels that way.

    With what we got though, I love the story of this game; it does something very risky and I think it paid off. Just wish we got the rest of the story.

    But regardless of what I think, you're of course welcome to dislike it.
     
  13. Iskandar King of Conquerors

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    So I'm guessing Phantom Pain had a mission that makes your blood boil?
     
  14. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Yup, it feels completely unbalanced and in general poorly designed, and you can't leave that area until you finish that mission, which upon completion locks out a major asset for the rest of the game.

    Again, dancing around the specifics.
     
  15. Jin うごかないで

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    I don't think I dislike it, I guess I'm just really annoyed with the twist of

    Not being the actual big boss from MGS3/GZ

    I guess i'm pretty annoyed at Konami though at pushing this game out before Kojima perfected it , It's already a great game but to learn that a lot of the main story missions and story got cut out because Konami wanted to cash this in already. I really kinda died when I hit mission 31 and saw the preview for chapter 2 only to learn that this is more or less where the games enjoy-ability plummets (unless you love repetition and are also a masochist) I just feel kind of at a loss I guess.
     
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    While I can understand being unhappy about being the true Big Boss, what that Big Boss (I'll just use Ishmael) said in the tapes to us (Ahab) about how both Ahab and Ishmael now make up the persona of Big Boss was really poignant, both in the game's universe and in a meta-narrative sense. Big Boss is literally more than just a person; he's a legend that can effectively lead two armies at once, and fooling the world with the two Big Bosses was super clever to me, especially considering that Solid Snake effectively beats Big Boss twice, once in Metal Gear and again in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

    But I will say that I wish they built up the importance of Ahab a lot better. Being told that he was basically a soldier on par with Big Boss yet never seeing him in previous games (for obvious reasons) felt very convoluted. I felt similarly with being told that Skull Face was Big Boss's clean-up crew. It felt unnecessary.

    Oh, I am very mad at Konami for what they did concerning this game's content and the FOB missions and MB microtransactions. But I can't say it doesn't make any sense to do these things: the game cost a metric ton of money to produce. I just believe there are plenty better ways to go about making back the costs.

    I managed to avoid losing interest in the game in Chapter 2 by avoiding the repeat missions: I did the Mother Base soldier Side-Ops, which led to me finishing a side story about another character, and a few prisoner extractions, and managed to unlock main missions without once repeating an episode.

    Believe me, I've had my fill of story-less endgame missions thanks to Peace Walker. The Phantom Pain did the endgame a LOT better.
     
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    So disappointed with that game. Gameplay was solid, but the story was trash. I'm convinced Kojima didn't even make it, despite putting his name on it 300 times. Snake Eater best Metal Gear game ever.
     
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    ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
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    guns of patriots just cause of that...god....damn..ending...QQ
     
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    I'm debating between MGS1 or MGS2 for my overall best.