Kingdom Hearts II just clearing up.....

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by Shax#14, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. Shax#14 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    this is about ven's, sora's and roxas' relation between them (don't know where to put this thread so here it is)

    Ventus had a fractured heart because of Xehanort who forcefully ripped the darkness inside Ventus’ heart because Ventus doesn’t want to use his darkness. The darkness became Vanitas. After the process of extracting the darkness within Ventus he was left in a comatose state with his heart of pure light slowly fading away. So Xehanort went to Destiny Island and left his body there to allow him to die peacefully. Ventus is sent to “Dive to the Heart”, where he made contact with newborn Sora. After a short discussion, newborn Sora’s heart connects with Ventus’ heart and mended Ventus’ heart allowing him to stay alive until he becomes strong enough to repair the damage by himself.

    Then after the events of “Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep”, somehow Ventus was able to find his way to young Sora, in his own “Awakening”, and his heart passes into Sora’s body, which granted Sora the ability to wield the Keyblade.
    At the “end of Kingdom Hearts”, Sora became a heartless because he stab himself with the Keyblade of People’s Hearts which he needed to do to release Kairi’s heart from within him,it also created two unique nobodies which was Roxas(Sora’s nobody)and Namine(Kairi’s nobody).

    Roxas(Sora’s name with the anagram “x”)named by the leader of Organization 13 which was Xemnas (Terranort’s nobody) and made him join the organization and it seems that he has real emotions than the other members of organization 13 which are nobodies as well. It is because of Ventus’ heart which is still in Sora’s body (which mentioned above that it became a nobody). This also explains the appearance of Roxas which is exactly the same as to Ventus’ appearance. Also he obtained another Keyblade because he awakened Ventus’ Keyblade when Xion died, and that’s why he can wield two Keyblades at once (as well as Sora can).

    so did I get something wrong?....
     
  2. Jin うごかないで

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    I think you're correct about mostly everything , but , i thought it was just Xion's keyblade roxas obtained , i didn't know it was awakened , can you explain?
     
  3. Glen Returned from the dead

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    He awakened Ventus's heart,and THAT'S why he can dual wield? And that happened when Xion was defeated...what evidence do you have to support this theory?
     
  4. Jin うごかないで

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    I don't think He awakened Ven's heart , but he awakened Xion's keyblade , am i correct ?
     
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    Actually:
    BBS Interview with Tetsuya Nomura/Kingdom Hearts Mysteries Answered
    He just awakened that ability
    Link:http://www.khplanet.com/forums/king...ngdom-hearts-mysteries-answered-spoilers.html
     
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    Xion could only weild one keyblade. I mean, Ya, Roxas Could weild two keyblades cause of sora and Ventus and looks like ventus. Xion however,
    was only a copy or a replica to absorb sora's memories
    thus she is able to weild his keyblade. When Roxas was weakening, Xion was getting stronger. It was Sora's memories that aided. Roxas was able to feel emotion because Sora technically still had his heart, he just still had a nobody walking around with his memories due to the screw ups in CoM. They had to put sora asleep so they could fix everything namine did to him in CoM. During the time Roxas was walking around, Sora was sleeping, his heart wasn't lost. So when Xion was "Viewed" as Ventus, It was a lingering memory that Xigbar had. Xion was viewed as the person of the memories she absorbed thus resembling kairi, sora AND Ventus. Only some people could make the connection between Xion and Ventus visable because of THEIR dormant memories of their past. Xemnas having the most dormant memories, named everyone with an anigram of X cause of the X-Blade and also
    talking to Aqua's armor in KH2: FM.
     
  8. Shax#14 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    well what do you mean in "lingering/dormant memory", if you mean forgotten memory it wasn't for Xigbar's case, he still remembers perfectly(well maybe not perfectly) who Ventus is(even Aqua and Terra)and in Xemnas' case ummm.. I don't know just look at what Ventus PSP Aqua's link and uh Xion uses Sora's Keyblade
     
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    aqua turned ven into castle oblivion after his and soras hearts were connected, so then when sora later returned to castle oblivion his mind was messed with by the help of namine (kairis nobody who he created when he released her heart) . then they put him to sleep and started rebuilding his memories.roxas was also created with a complete replica of twilight town but before this hapened he was forced into the organization. xemnas xigbar and the other people had created to be a puppet of soras memories .roxas being part of sora and ventus at the same time would probably already be able to wield 2 keyblades i would think. and xion was just merely a replica of sora that to roxas was aperantly seen as sora. thats what i think xion was just puppet to reclaim soras memories and when she was defeated the memories just went back to diz' computer thing. but where does ansem fit into all this??
     
  10. Key master Sora Traverse Town Homebody

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    I meant "dormant" as in they still have memories, they just aren't easy to recall. Xigbar can still remember his brawl with Ventus you know! XD
     
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    All that I know is when Xion
    died
    Roxas was able to wield her keyblade too, but how do you know it's from ven?
     
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    Because if it wasnt for
    Ven's heart being inside sora
    Then Roxas wouldnt be able to dual wield. So basically ven allows Roxas and Sora to have two keyblades
     
  13. Shax#14 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    oh ok so dormant is like nearly forgotten memories if I get it wrong again I'll just lol

    offtopic:"If ever there is tomorrow when we're not together.. there is something you must always remember. you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think. but the most important thing is, even if we're apart.. i'll always be with you." I think I heard that quote before, is it from Winnie the Pooh?
     
  14. Key master Sora Traverse Town Homebody

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    you got that right aqua! lol ^^
    off topic: I miss you!

    your good! ^^ And yes that quote is from winnie the pooh... christopher robin says it to pooh....