Is it Ethical to use Embryonic Stem Cells For Experimentation in Medicine?

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  1. Near-to-Tears Hollow Bastion Committee

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    These blank cells that have yet to be programmed to do anything eg: become a heart or a bone cell, could be used to cure cancers, reconnect spinal cords almost anything. But people don't like the idea of using these so called 'babies' for expermentation. What do you think?
     
  2. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    If it can cure all those things, then I don't know why people care so much about stopping it. Stem cell research is very good, imo. <3
     
  3. Hummingbird Destiny Islands Resident

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    Seeing as these stem cells have yet to develop into anything, I don't see why not. I don't think the cells can be considered a baby before they've started actually developing into one and it's not like the cells themselves can feel pain. Of course the "Killing potential life" argument is always there, but we're also killing potential life every time we use contraceptives during sexual intercourse and if stem cells can be used to save lives and to cure injuries that are irreversible with any other known methods, I say there's nothing ethically wrong with using stem cells for medical purposes. (which, naturally, involves experimentation)
     
  4. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    it depends, are we using fetuses that are ALREADY dead or are we aborting/killing them? becuz if they're already dead, i honestly dont' see the problem. but if we're killing htem then i can see why ppl are complaining.
     
  5. Near-to-Tears Hollow Bastion Committee

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    They're not dead as such, they're as much alive as a skin or blood cell is. But we don't have much trouble messing them about.
     
  6. Soushirei 運命の欠片

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    Actually, stem cell research is performed from already 'dead' fetuses, be it from abortion or still-borns. When people purposely abort fetuses to do stem cell research, that's when it becomes a legal and moral issue.

    The same issue can be said about smoking studies. You can't force individuals to start smoking in order to perform tests on the results as that'd be unethical, but you can perform studies on people who've already started smoking of their own volition. In translation, you can't force anyone to abort their child for the sake of stem cell research, rather you have to look through your already available resources and go from there.

    I personally think stem cell research is fine. Using already deceased human resources to benefit mankind (with permission of course) is completely justified. This is pretty much the same thing that happens when people give permission to donate their organs after they die, and I don't see many people debating about organ donations.
     
  7. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    i agree with you souehrel, if there is consent and we're not forcing anyone to do antying they dont' wna do, i really can't see what the problem is
     
  8. Clawtooth Keelah se'lai!

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    I agree, wate not want not. If they are already dead then why waste them and use them to make life better for the ones who do survive.
     
  9. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    i'm pretty neutral about this because i CAN see both sides. i could understand concern if someone gets upset over slicing up and extracting cells from dead babies. but there are benefits to doing this, VERY good benefits as well. so....i don't know
     
  10. Clawtooth Keelah se'lai!

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    you know, there is no difference between this and organ donation.
     
  11. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    well.....there is but let's not make a big thing out of this, organ donors themselves give their consent while fetuses on teh other hand do and cannot.
     
  12. Darkcloud Word of advice: Let the wookie win. He's Chuck N

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    This debate pretty much has its 'ups' and 'downs', mostly because more research is needed. On one, yes, they can indeed be used to make other forms of tissues, but there's also the fact there are still plenty of problems (ie. subjects die mysteriously, without any cause). The other, for the killing issue, people are against it, but these people would also have to be against birth control as well, because that kills just as much as abortion does, except they aren't, which blows my mind a little bit.
     
  13. Soushirei 運命の欠片

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    The parents do, who are basically the only people qualified to make the decision since the fetuses obviously can't.
     
  14. Solid Snake Kept you waiting, huh?

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    Im sorry?
    Babies?
    no they arnt babies and the fact is it would just end up leaving the body anywayz so i think its fine
    my mom said it was my fault she craved pancakes for a year but i wasnt the one who told my parents to have me D:
     
  15. Soushirei 運命の欠片

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    I'm not quite sure what the relevance of this is.
     
  16. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    i suppose it's better than just leaving the bodies to rot tho
     
  17. Solid Snake Kept you waiting, huh?

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    its just that you backed up what i told her

    but now im spaming so i must leave <_<
     
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    Ethics are a matter of upbringing; but legal stem cell experimentation has been labled as ethical thus far. If we were to go about this beyond death though, we could technically condition any human being to become a voluntary guinea pig if it's from birth....though that would no longer be "embryonic". Anyway, like I said, it depends on ethics. In my own opinion, if it's an embryo that wasn't desired to be a child (be it by it's parents decision or nature's), it should be fine.

    In a way the best way to view it is the use of cadavers for medical studies and practicing doctors.

    PS: I heard something about fat cells containing stem cells, if it's true then the whole matter of ethics won't be a problem at all, haha...
     
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    Stem cell research is fine in my book. The fetuses and cells taken are already deceased as others have mentioned. Abortions happen and we are also learning new ways to experiment which don't even consist of having to use fetuses so much. These cells can save lives and have the potential to allow us to do all sorts of things with organs, skin cures, and neurological diseases like MS and Parkinson's Disease. There are many people inflicted with spinal damage or neurological conditions that live lives of agony and if that could be stopped these people could have basically normal lives. We may find a ton of cures for things and considering the cells are in states where they haven't even been assigned 'roles' yet, there is no real feeling involved in this of a sentient being.
     
  20. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    whoa whoa whoa, that's a MAJOR reason to be concerned then
     
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