Is age Important?

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  1. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    So, the inequality between age has beena round for a along time, to say the least.

    I'm 17, and i've been debating more serious arguments for around 3-4 years, whilst about the last 8 years i've been doing personal thoughts on serious situations. Now, since i've started debating with my parents and grandmother on some subjects, my opinion isn't taken as seriously as the 'adults' opinions are. At school, however, when I discuss with some friends or teachers, I usually get more acceptance on my beliefs (my English teacher even called me an old man once for respect of my 'wisdom'... I hope).

    Anyway my point is, is that generally the opinions of a younger audience aren't seen as a great resource, and are usually ignored. THe Government for example will most likely listen to a 50 year old politician with traditional beliefs, about young gun and kinfe crime than they will a person of 13 who has experienced it first hand because of their age.

    Is age really a factor when it comes down to it?

    Have you ever been looked down upon because of your age?
     
  2. Always Dance Chaser

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    This problem is pretty much unavoidable. Take me for example, I'm fourteen years old. This is a young age, but I'm really smart for my age. I'm in COLLEGE, for Christ's sake. But despite this, my opinion is not only less important that those of older people, it's usually downright ignored.

    This is obviously not fair, but I can definitely see where these adults are coming from. It's really hard to take a young kid seriously, I mean, I can't take my four year old brother seriously, so I really don't have a place to complain.
     
  3. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I get the whole thing that on average young people are less intelligent when compared to adults, but I find the apparent lack of attempting to try and find out the intelligence of someone young is appalling.
     
  4. Captain Hero Hollow Bastion Committee

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    All the freaking time. Whenever I dispute anything my parents say(I'm 18), they call me a drama queen and then disregard it and then it pisses me off. Then I yell and cuss at them, and they continue to ignore my opinion and call me names. Which is why I ignore my parents. That always gets their attention.
     
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    Oh course.

    Everyone gets discriminated against due to their physical properties. Just like blacks were discriminated against in Africa and how Jews and gypsies were killed because of their blood, everyone is discriminated against. Perhaps not to the same degree, but it's there. You do it too. Perhaps based on height, hair colour or race instead of age. This is never going to change as everyone has a superiority complex.

    You may get looked down upon and ignored. Perhaps you're told that your brain isn't fully developed yet. Whatever happens, people consider you lesser, or diffferent, to them. This is much like racism that went on in South Africa and Nazi Germany. Because those people considered themselves superior to others based on the stereotype, countries got torn apart and millions murdered. This is proof that the world is not fundamentally changing, we're just becoming more subtle in the stereotypes that we use, in order to hide them from ourselves.

    It's in that way that you, me and everyone can happlily stereotype while symultaniously berating others for judging us prematurely. Take for example children. I'm certain you look down upon little kids. I do too, after all, they're not as old as me, nor as intelligent. But that is but a stereotype. There may be some kids who are just as smart as I am, or even more so. But if I were to meet one, I'd treat them as a lesser being, and so would you. Again, this proves that we're not actually learning from history, we're hiding the fact that we're doing the same thing that Hitler and the National party did from ourselves.

    The reason this happens is sheer arrogance. Everyone has a superiority complex. We need one to keep ourselves alive. I consider myself more important that you, so if I were ever in a burning building with you, I'd forget you and run for the door. It's the same concept with stereotyping. We're just making excuses to clothe that fact that we consider ourselves superior to those around us. The reasons can be entirely illogical, provided we believe them. In this way we artfully deceive ourselves of our true nature.

    In short, descrimination is eternal. It happened in the past and it happens now. It just so happens that in our day to day lives we're doing it on a smaller scale than the dictators of the textbook. This is all to fuel our superiority complex, which convinces us we are superior to others in order to help our survival.


    Oh course.

    Everyone gets discriminated against due to their physical properties. Just like blacks were discriminated against in Africa and how Jews and gypsies were killed because of their blood, everyone is discriminated against. Perhaps not to the same degree, but it's there. You do it too. Perhaps based on height, hair colour or race instead of age. This is never going to change as everyone has a superiority complex.

    You may get looked down upon and ignored. Perhaps you're told that your brain isn't fully developed yet. Whatever happens, people consider you lesser, or diffferent, to them. This is much like racism that went on in South Africa and Nazi Germany. Because those people considered themselves superior to others based on the stereotype, countries got torn apart and millions murdered. This is proof that the world is not fundamentally changing, we're just becoming more subtle in the stereotypes that we use, in order to hide them from ourselves.

    It's in that way that you, me and everyone can happlily stereotype while symultaniously berating others for judging us prematurely. Take for example children. I'm certain you look down upon little kids. I do too, after all, they're not as old as me, nor as intelligent. But that is but a stereotype. There may be some kids who are just as smart as I am, or even more so. But if I were to meet one, I'd treat them as a lesser being, and so would you. Again, this proves that we're not actually learning from history, we're hiding the fact that we're doing the same thing that Hitler and the National party did from ourselves.

    The reason this happens is sheer arrogance. Everyone has a superiority complex. We need one to keep ourselves alive. I consider myself more important that you, so if I were ever in a burning building with you, I'd forget you and run for the door. It's the same concept with stereotyping. We're just making excuses to clothe that fact that we consider ourselves superior to those around us. The reasons can be entirely illogical, provided we believe them. In this way we artfully deceive ourselves of our true nature.

    In short, descrimination is eternal. It happened in the past and it happens now. It just so happens that in our day to day lives we're doing it on a smaller scale than the dictators of the textbook. This is all to fuel our superiority complex, which convinces us we are superior to others in order to help our survival.
     
  6. krayzie Lionhart

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    i never knew that you were 17 because your posts are so sofisticated
    but yeah i agree. we are looked down upon for beign younger
    grown ups win debates against younger people simply beacause they are older and people listen and believe them more
    if i were to say that it snows in California and my dad were to say it doesnt, some one with no knowledge on the subject would take his word over mines

    lmfao dam!
    still your 18 they should listen more
    your legally an adult
     
  7. tSG1 Chaser

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    Not that much. However, it seems that the older you grow, the more you are mature to handle new knowledge such as sex education.

    I have been looked down upon because of my age before. Like, if i attend a fancy function, the guest will say 'Hi!' to my mother and my father, shake both their hands, but not mine lol.

    I guess it comes with growing up :S
     
  8. Nuff' Said Banned

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    age does matter because it's pretty low for a 18+ to be hitting on girls my age and lower. It's fine once they're 18 because my mom was 41 right now if she were still alive and my dad would be 70
     
  9. DemyxPlaysMySitar Twilight Town Denizen

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    Ugh. ALL THE TIME. It's annoying as hell. I could probably debate about serious situations better than some adults I know, but they never listen. It's worse when they say "Good point, but..." or just agree with you to make you "shut up" -_-
     
  10. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    It does sometimes depending on some factors. I think adults can't take kids opinions well because they are younger. The older you are, the smarter you believe you are. Sometimes it's maturity, I mean, if you run around acting like an idiot all day, then yeah your opinion may be ignored.
     
  11. Captain Hero Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I think that it's just the older we get, the less ignorant other people become.
     
  12. Nuff' Said Banned

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    That's true which is probably what led to my parent's long marriage. Death till they part
     
  13. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    Age isn't a fact but experience often is. This of course isn't always the case since some people will always be blind to their surroundings and/or have had their life served on a silver platter. But yeah, it's supposed to have a hand in your sense of intuition.
     
  14. Nuff' Said Banned

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    Yes but think how it'd affect their children if they had children. If it were at least 10 years apart then the children might end up thinking like this "oh there's grandpa" That's what I used to think until I realized that grandpa was my dad and I ended being put on happy pills so I think it is important
     
  15. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Ironically, its legal to harrass someone at work for being too young, yet illegal to harrass someone for being too old.

    Ok, people assume that younger people are less knowledgable.

    I've had debates where people were dead wrong, and gotten responses like, "I've forgotten more than you will ever know!"

    Its stupid. There are intelligent young people. However, its easy to see why. When your older, you will have all the knowledge you possess now, plus a lot more.

    Bottom line, older people are typically more knowledgable. But the lone fact that you are young shouldn't discredit your points.
     
  16. Maka Albarn It's called love

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    Heh, just recently people have been shocked when I said I was 17 years old just based on how I looked. They said I appeared to be a middle-schooler, which ticked me off. But the point is people should judge others based on their maturity. I mean, there's a lot of kids a lot younger then me who act more like young adults then I do. Age really doesn't matter. I mean look at the kids that graduate from high school and go onto college at the age of ten! They're brilliant. Then there's others that act their age or younger. Age just labels you of how long you've been on the earth, but it doesn't measure how much you know.
     
  17. Nuff' Said Banned

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    You look 15 to me. Depends on the picture. One makes you look 17
    Anyway I agree with this but kids don't have the emotional knowledge such as rejection, depression, and hardship
     
  18. Cleopatra King's Apprentice

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    Actually I'm 14 and its only those who really know me actually ignore my opinion. I get mistaken for a 15-18 year old almost nearly everytime I'm in public or meeting a new person/s. They say its mostly because of how I dress then add "You're mature for your age as well." I guess that's a good thing. But if you look at the bigger picture its like "Well I'm probably going to look like I'm thirty before I actually am."

    Backtotopic. But yes, I do get ignored and when my opinion doesn't matter I feel it should. Then when I don't care, I all of a sudden exist.

    Experience is another theme. If you have experience, age won't matter.
     
  19. Bond of Flame I'm an alien

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    Well, I'm still a kid, and I know I have to listen to what my parent say. It's called respect for the majority or something in that direction.

    I it's really the thing that when you ain't 18 yet, you need to listen to the adults. At least, I think it's childish to think you're your own boss when you're still a kid with few experience.
     
  20. Always Dance Chaser

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    I don't think my own boss, absolutely not. And I do still listen to my parents. It just kind of ticks me off that my opinion never matters.
     
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