Illegal Immigration

So I don't know how this really affects the rest of the country but I live on the California-Mexico border, so it is all around me. I want to know your guys' opinion on the subject whether it affects you or not.

Me personally, don't agree with the idea of illegal immigration, I have a family that came to america 100% legal and I am against just coming in, when I my family worked really hard to get in. But what I do support is the idea of making work permits much easier to get and I encourage more mexicans to obatian them legally. Currently they are much harder to get and immigrates are voiding the process and just coming in for work under the table and sending money back home. If work visas are made easier to get there would be less problems such as these, not to mention that they come and work for around 3 to 6 months then go back home for a month or two and return.
Not to mention that the families that come up to SoCal. then do not try to learn, customs or language also upsets me.

But what are your guys' opinions on it.

 

To be honest it really annoy's me. I know that's harsh but it does. I can understand that some people need to immigrate perhaps because their life is in danger back in their country, but some of them don't really need to. They come in expecting their lives to change just like that & that the Govt. will give them housing & benefits. Also when they are put on trial, whether they get to stay in the country or not can take ages to complete. A lot of these benefits can go to people who desperately need it.

 

Exactly, I feel like, all the hard work I put out everyday at work, is being sucked up by families who will use the ER for a flu, or suck down social security. People who come to america in search of a better life want it to be handed to them on a silver platter and its not like that, but they find out it is not what is imagined and they sit and suck up social security. Or take lower paying jobs from kids, such as working in a fast food joint or somthing like that.

 

It's stupid and unfair. They should do everything like everyone else has to, not get a free ride. Gawd!! Do they think they're better then us or something?? *sigh* Whatever...SOMETHING will have to stop it, soon....I'm sure of it...

 

Jeez..."free ride". You're all quite mistaken. First of all, it's not only Mexicans that are illegal immagrants. It happanes litterally all over this country.

In the east, it's islanders and europeans.

In the south it's Latinos.

In the North it's Canadians.

In the west it's Latinoes and Asians.

Secondly, no illegal immagrant gets into this country for free. Their lives in thse countries are obviously so hard, so stressful and poor, that they feel a need to get over to this country. When they can't afford to come here legally, they face their only option, illegally. And then, once they get here, they work overtime for small wages, they go back to crowded american apartments that they can barely pay for, they have to constantly keep under wraps, not going to hospitals or any sort of governmental facility, for fear of being caught and sent back to their country. Not to mention they don't have things like insurance or mortgages. They can't even drive legally. There lives are harder then any of ours. They may be taking our jobs from hard-working americans, but it's not their fault, it's what they had to do to survive. We all need to stop blaming the immagrants, and start blaming the cheap businessmen who will hire them. These men could easily pay the immagrants normal wages, so that there would be some degree of fairness, perhaps the immagrants could even afford to get legalized, but the businessmen don't, because they can hire immagrants for cheap. They can get quality work for practically nothing. They don't need to pay normal wages to the immagrants, because only american citizens need to be paid minimum wage. Everyone gets jipped, not just the immagrants. So stop running around saying it's unfair and crap, because it's not their fault, it's our own greediness that attracts these people and takes away from our own lives and salaries.

 

I live in Michigan, so it's most likely not nearly as large of an issue here as it would be where you live. I'm not going to act like I know what it's like to live in the conditions of the presented countries and the reasons they illegally immigrate over here-Since I haven't had the slightest touch with it.

But, when we refer to the part where tax dollars are being spent on welfare and foodstamps for these people I can relate. I've never been for government generosity-churches, welfare, etc. Regardless of what it is I don't like it, since it's extremely unfair to the whole of the country doing their civil duty. Some of these people can't find jobs. Then again, a lot of them are useless junkies, alcoholics, or gamblers, who don't go to anonymous meetings [NA, AA, GA etc.]

A lot of immigrants do find jobs over, but there's a few of them who come for the benefits. Still, for the most part a lot of you have this mistaken, most of them who come over do work. It's not like they just marinate here. And the job issue-a lot of these jobs are careers that many Americans wouldn't even take.

 

For once, I agree with Cin.

It's a natural instinct to survive and to survive as comfortably as possible. These people, (we'll use the mexicans as an example) have such horrid lives that they basically HAVE to leave their country, or die. In Mexico the conditions are so poor that you'll have entire families going without food for days, if not weeks. And when they receive food the quality is horrendous. Sure, they have factories lined up along the border where Mexicans can work; but they aren't allowed to use the products. They aren't even paid a forth of our minimum wage to work there.

 

If they contribute to our society, fine. If they break laws, take advantage, or dont pay taxes then GTFO. I really am for giving everyone a fair chance. I think they deserve the same opportunity to make a life here, to help support their families back home wherever that might be. I think its a great privilage for them, and as long as they abide by our laws, then theyll be just fine. Our citizenship requirements are a little tough, so maybe they need some revisions. There needs to be standards as far as wages go. They cant be hired for so cheap that we put our other citizens out of buisness. So, wage reforms as well. Quite frankly, I find it disgusting that people are willing to pay them so little for the hard work they do. Cin is right, that isnt their fault.

 

I don't feel like reading what others said so sorry if I am repeating what others have said. They just think they can cross the border and have a good life in the US. All they do is hurt the American way of life and our economy. This part won't make any sense. With more immigrants coming in the higher the debt went up. Now of course you can't really relates the two. It's like saying babies kill people. When more babies are born the amount of people that are dead goes up. Anyways the thing that pisses me off the most is when they say that they aren't criminals so don't treat them like they are. Well there is a reason they are called illegals. Not calling an illegal a criminal would be just like letting O.J. go free. Wait this just in O.J. Simpson was found innocent. That can't be right. Well don't pay attention to my last comparison. When you cross the border illegally you become the same as a common criminal.

 

I feel sorry for all the immigrants. I really do. But this thing is annoying the heck out of me.
I live in Southern California. Yeah sure, there's immigrants in other parts of the country, but here, we got millions. Millions of millions.
Luckily, my town isn't all that ghetto.
I visited my Aunt once. She lives in Downey, CA. Kinda close to L.A.
So, my family and I were walkin' down the street. We did not see any white people there. Only Latinos. Which is pretty sad. They weren't all there 5 years ago! I do feel sorry that they're in the situation that they're in, but right now I'm just annoyed with them all coming here. The Mayor of L.A. isn't much help either. >_<

 

I live in San Diego, so it is a huge problem where I live, I am not saying that I hate mexicans not at all, but I do not agree with people coming into the country illegally, I use mexicans as an example because that is the main group down here, and as roxasnoxas said their are alot, millions in fact. So schools are being filled as well, along with jobs taken away.

 

Yeah. I live like an hour away from San Diego, and an hour and a half from L.A.
I'm lucky that I go to a private school. The classes are filled up, but not with illegal children. Maybe our government could help the Mexican government to help all these people out. Make their lives better in Mexico.

 

*sigh* We all like to be charitable, but our country obviously has problems of its own. In our own situation we should be mainly occupied with ourselves, not sticking our nose into the welfare of Mexican citizens. When natural disasters hit other nations [like the tsunami in Sri Lanka] we are almost obliged to help them. World politics has a lot of lucid masks, we don't give them money because we're generous and pity them. If we ignore their need for help we get marked off as a nation only interested in our selves, therefore severing relationships with not only that country but others as well. If something spontaneous like such happened to Mexico, we would most likely donate money and services to them. All the schools would have food drives and such. However, since the country's underdevelopment is something that has occurred over a period of time, we don't feel obliged to do anything about the issue but attempt to keep them out of our own borders.

 

It's not just the USA, i was talking about the UK as well & other countries. I can understand that people's lifes are hard, but they are making it harder for us. It is our taxes that has to pay for them. But i can see it from their side, that they need help but i kinda annoy's me that there are thousands of them coming through.

 

They aren't making it harder on us, they're making it easier. They do the jobs we won't do. Tell me, how many of you would CHOOSE to work in a waste management factory or CHOOSE to hand-pick thousands of mushrooms or oranges or anything else a day?

 

But there are people who complain that immigrants are taking our jobs cause they work for such a low wage, even in those kind of jobs.
Plus Illegal immigrats aren't supposed to be able to work are they not? Don' they need a working Visa?

 

Correct techniquely they are supposed to have a work visa, and you think they are making it easier. I am going to disagree with that. It sucks down tax dollars like crazy, money that should be going to public projects and what not, is going to social services that are not supposed to be here. I am not saying don't let anyone in, I am saying make it easier for people to work here legally. Sure they do jobs other won't, but by make a work visa eaiser to get that will ensure they still have jobs.

 

This whole debate is basically why I beleive that America should just buy Mexico...XD

Anyway, like I said before, IT'S NOT THIER FAULT. You know, maybe they need those services like us? They're living people too, money makes the world go round, but if you think of it on a human scale, not economical, you'll see that yet again, it's the americans fault for this. WHY do we give them services like emergency room and insurance and stuff? Because we're ****ing greedy, that's why. The insurance companies and stuff make money off of illegal immagrants jst like the cheap businessmen do. The Immagrants are getting jipped by even being here. And, in all onesty, there's no way to stop immagration, and no wayto stop illegal immagration, however the way we handle them once we get here, that's what can and needs to be changed.

 

We can sacrifice a few tax dollars and still live. You're all just angry because it means you have to live a little less comfortably. I, for one, can live with the idea of putting up a bit more of my income if it means more people get to live a tad bit better lives.

Honestly, though, we -should- just buy Mexico. We'd be able to provide them with better resources and they'd be able to provide us with more services and workers. We could then expand down there, so we wouldn't be clogging up our own country.

 

Buy Mexico? Are you guys serious? X3 First off, you have no idea what kind of money pit that would be for us. Plus, would the Mexican government really be accepting to that kind of thing? If the US were to ever buy out another country, it would be for economic reasons. Not because we're feeling generous. Wishful thinking though~