358/2 Days How Xigbar sees Xion (SPOILER, DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED)

So, why did Xigbar see Xion as Ventus? We all know that Xigbar, well, Briag, knew VAT. But why did he see Xion as him? Thoughts are welcome.

I think there is some connection not only between Ventus and Roxas, but also to Ventus and Sora (which is quite logical, because Roxas = Sora in a way). Xion is the inperfect being created by Xemnas through Sora's memories I believe, thus being a part of Sora. Xigbar sees Xion as Ventus, meaning that Sora has something to do with Ventus. The only thing is.. WHAT connection that is. We can only guess, but that's what I want to hear.. You guys/girls opinions about this.

Thanks for reading.

Xion as Ventus: http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ventus_358-2.jpg

 

can you send me a link to the part of the game that he says this?

plus that pic was a hack someone made..

 

Nah it's not a hack, Xigbar truly sees Xion as Ventus for a moment in the game. Here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUsRyg3oxxc&feature=related

 

oh I thought that was a hack! my bad..

um.. I think it's from what you said. being Sora's clone.. Ventus must have a connection with sora.

or with kairi... being made from memories of her.

 

I seriously thought it was because Xion was acting like Ven.

I say it's still unknown if Ven has a total connection to Roxas and Sora as far as BEING them. But from this, he may have a connection with nobodies possibly. Of course that's a theory with no proof. So I guess he might've saw Xion like that because maybe Briag was fighting Ven somewhere in BBS?

 

Your signature is rather spoilerific >.>. Either way, to make things clear:

Xion is a Sora replica made of his memories, that much all of us know. However, the said memories of Sora she holds are those of Kairi, and/or, it's the most strongest memory Sora has. I haven't gotten to which one it is yet. Nevertheless, it doesn't have much influence as you think it does: the only results were the facts that she was able to take a Kairi appearance, and perhaps, as in my theory, is able to see herself as the dark haired girl in her unbiased eyes. Considering she is based and is a component of Sora's memories, people see different things when witnessing Xion depending on their connection to Sora. The audience, and Roxas, see the dark haired girl. Axel sees Xion the same way because of Roxas. Which is why we get the female form most of the time. Xigbar sees Ven. Xemnas sees "Xion", which I don't know if it means the blank doll, and Ven. Even Riku managed to see Xion's "true nature" at the beginning, according to Nomura, which separates the female shape he saw after. I don't know if it means he saw Sora, though it's the highest possibility.

In conclusion? Xion's appearance changes with who is watching her. Think of Ditto from pokémon. Except that instead of switching, Xion's are more like illusions (due to the memories) over the blank doll.

 

Xigbar didn't have THAT kind of connection with Sora to see Xion as Ven. If that were the case, that makes Ven, Sora.

Of course, that unless Briag became hell of some good friends with Ven and Sora.

 

Xigbar has met TVA though. Remember he specifically aid "You aren't half the heroes like the others were" He says it Sora right before he fights him.

 

That's exactly why we got the point of view of Xigbar seeing Ven. It's been hinted long ago since KH2 that he had met TAV. And Ven is obviously connected to Sora, and in turn, Roxas, in some form. Xigbar even said "he used to look at me the same way". And yes, not only is that line in KH2 in describing Roxas, it's in Days as well. You have to recall that it's memories. Even if you weren't really BFFs...you still have that connection.

There's been theories of Xigbar being Baldhanort. But that's another topic altogether.

 

Xigbar being Baldhanort hm? That is interesting.
Xigbar doesn't look as old as MX though, and if he was that powerful when he was a human, wouldn't Xigbar be the leader of Organisation XII, being the nobody of someone that powerful?
Unless Xemnas is even stronger, but I doubt that actually, MX seems to be on a whole other level than anybody.
I remember reading that VAT are alot stronger than Sora was, but Sora was able to defeat Xemnas, so that would mean VAT are alot stronger than Xemnas. But VAT got pwnd by MX, so that would mean MX is ALOT stronger than Xemnas ever will be. So if Xigbar was MX, wouldn't he take over the Organisation, or lead them from the beginning?

 

The thing is we don't know if MX becomes the Xehanort we all know so that we don't know but anyway let's get back to KH days. It is Xion and Xigbar sees Ven because he knew Ven

 

Explanation on how xigbar sees Xion as Ven

Spoiler

Xion is made up of sora's memories after the battle with xemnas in
KH1. Vexen makes Xion out of those memories like Repliku was made. Her name originally was No. I and that being the anagram Xion.. Everyone sees Xion in the way they're connected to Sora. It's unknown why Xigbar sees Ven but that's how

 

Yeah it is another topic altogether, although I'll have to disagree with those theories. Now, with Ven... Plain and simple I think this all has something to do with Master Xehanort doing something to Ven's heart. If someone had already said similar to this, then forgive me. But, yeah Ven's heart. This has to do something with that. Why else would Ven want to be Erased?

Ven: We're friends, right? Then....do me a favor...and Erase me.

Or something like that. Why would he want to be erased? Does this connect to his heart and what Master Xehanort has done to it? Maybe this is how it connects to Roxas(Special Nobody) and Sora(Being a keyblade master).

Even Ven's keyblade has similarities to Kingdom Keys handle, and the teeth of the blade looks a bit like Roxas's Two fates crossed. ~From KH wiki by whoever posted it.

Hence, how Xigbar sees Xion as Ven. BBS takes place 10 years before kh 1. The first 6 of the organization XIII members were apprentices under Ansem the wisem, correct? Ven does see these 6 in BBS.

So yeah, again if someone posted this already then forgive.

 

im thinking that xigbar was the the old master xehanorts aprentice in bbs as for the connection watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seVPpl4k4fY

 

her a little info. people see xion based upon certain factors. roxas sees her as a friend. xemnas and saix see her as a puppet. and Xiggy sees her a ven. there for xiggy must have some relationship to ven.

 

Xion was made of fragments of emotions of Sora. Whatever emotions or memories she was using affected her appearence. She appeared to be Kairi so often because thats what was closest to Sora.

This furthers the theory that Ventus was sealed inside of Sora. So therfore, Ventus fragment memories would be hidden deep inside of Sora, which may be where Xion got that appearence from.

 

Also implies that Xigbar got around a bit when he was Braig if he fought Ven. "Why do you always look at me like I just killed your goldfish?"=lmao

 

Did he say that in the game?
I would love to see that scene.

Also, remember what he told Sora in KH2.
"*laughs* I forgot! He used to look at me the same way" or something.
A lot of people thought that was another reference to Ven, but maybe Sora looks at people like they killed his goldfish, too

 

lol yea probably oh and if you want to watch the scene tell me ill post it here ^^

 

Yes, I do.
Can you post it or link me to it?