Birth by Sleep Hmmm, I think I thought of something.

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  1. Ginix Traverse Town Homebody

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    The theory on Xehanort

    I just got through watching the "Birth By Sleep" extra teaser from kh2fm+. I noticed something quite interesting. Master Xehanort is older then Terra no doubt but, What if Master Xehanort is Terra's father? and the master's apprentice is Terra's Heartless or Nobody? I have evidence to support this claim.
    NOTE: (Master Xehanort can't be Terra, or his nobody. If he was it would screw up the meaning of his apprentice that is destined to be the one that starts all of the Kingdom Hearts Ansem story. It is Master Xehanort's apprentice that takes on the name of Ansem and starts this whole problematic story.)

    On one hand Master Xehanort looks a lot like Terra, just way way older. They both have the same color eyes, and even the yellow part of the eyes (Don't know what causes it) are the same. Where as his apprentice has the same height has Terra, same unique fighting stance, and in the Birth By Sleep video, right when he hits Terra with the lightning attack, through his helmet, you can see just a bit of his glowing yellow eyes in it. coincidence? Maybe but, I don't think so.

    Or, I could go a step further.

    In Kingdom Hearts 2 (Doesn't have to be final mix) Saix was talking to Sora and he said the line "True, we don't have hearts. But, we remember what it was like. That's what makes us special." Ok, so Nobodies do remember what it was like when they had hearts. Xemnas though, (Remember Xemnas is Xehanort's nobody) At the end of Kingdom Hearts 2 (Again, it doesn't have to be Final Mix) Sora said to Xemnas "Xemnas, there's more to a heart then just anger and hate. It's full of all kinds of feelings." "Don't you remember?"

    This is the kicker, Saix said the Nobodies remember what it's like... But, Xemnas responds "Unfortunately... I don't." (whoa whoa whoa, Saix just got through saying Nobodies did remember.. what does that means if Xemnas can't ?!) Maybe Xehanort had no heart? Maybe he was a nobody? Maybe Master Xehanort's apprentice is the Xehanort that led to Heartless Xehanort and Nobody Xemnas? I don't know but, I will leave that up to you to decide.

    Ok, enough about Xehanort now. Lets get to the Keyblades subject.

    It has been said that there are only 3 real keyblades. (2 that were made of light, it can bring the worlds to peace.) (1 that was made of dark, that could cause chaos.) Well, if you looked really really close, you will have noticed that Ven's Keyblade is The Way To Dawn :S That right there tells me that in Birth By Sleep, you will probably play as Ven.

    But anyways, back on topic, If you've seen Another Side, Another Story [Deep Dive] (Final Mix special ending), at the beginning, you see Sora standing in a field on a road. That road looks like an "X" with grass surrounding it. If you look in the secret ending, the 3 Birth By Sleep hero's (Terra, Aqua, Ven) are standing on a road that also looks like an "X" which has keyblades surrounding it. It looks almost the same.

    It is also the road where Riku was given the choice to go to either "Light" or "Darkness", but he chose neither and said he wanted to go to the "Road To Dawn". (Twilight) So I think that place is where light and dark meet... a world "in between" if you must. That would also explain a lot on how Riku could have gotten The Way To Dawn as well.

    What do you mean Master Xehanort's apprentice is the Xehanort that starts all this crap?! How do you know?!

    Ok, I don't know for sure but, I just have a feeling underneath that helmet, you will see a guy with grayish blond hair, blue eyes, and a matching hair style similiar to both Xemnas, and Ansem (Heartless Xehanort). If you look at him, you can kinda see that image of him.

    Why does Ven look like Roxas?

    I have not figured this out yet, sadly :( I have a theory though, a bit far fetched but, a theory none the less. I'll post it if you want me to though.


    What are your thoughts/theories?
     
  2. khsuperfan Banned

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    ok, I know why Roxas and Ven look alike...
    It's because Sora is Ven's Heartless, and Roxas is Ven's Nobody.
    It sounds weird, but just think about it. The room of Sleep that Xemnas is always in. And when he meets Roxas in the realm od darkness, he says," He looks a lot like you."
    That's why Ven looks just like Roxas, (or more so Roxas looks like Ven) It's because Roxas is Ven's Nobody, and for Ven to be whole again, Sora must be destroyed (because he's a Heartless, and how can one exist when his Heartless exists?). Xemnas has been seeing Ven and Aqua in the Room of Sleep, slowly regaining his memory to become whole. But he's losing his memory of a heart. "You will find something you need, but lose something in return."
    Sound formiliar? Soon he will become Terra once more, and that's when the sleepinhg light in the eternal darkness will awaken. Thats my theory anyways (and I know its gonna be right).
     
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    Um, Earth to khsuperfan! If Sora was a heartless then he couln't have a heart! Meaning that he would never turned again into a heartless! But still, nice theoriy there Ginix!
     
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    No.. i don't think MX is Terra's father... MX has similarity with Xehanort's heartless.. i would say that they are the same person..( i think)



    Ven's heart maybe keep inside Sora.. When Sora release his heart.. Roxas create from Ven's heart.. i mean Ven could be part of Sora's heart..
     
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