Final Fantasy: Spirits Within

Ok, I just finished watching a move called Vexille that is animated just like Spirits Within, and now I feel the need to watch it. What's your guy's take on the movie? Do you think it fits the role of Final Fantasy all right?

 

I didn't even know that movie was actually Final Fantasy-related...


maybe it was a different take on the idea? i dunno.

 

It's bloody awful, and that's all you should need to know. Not even the good kind of awful, the awful that you can get some fun from by laughing at how bad it is. It's just HORRIBLE.

 

well that's just your opinion. I personally love it.

 

I strongly disagree.

I think its a beautiful film. I've lost count of how many times I have watched it, and I shall continue to watch it many many more. It is definitely worth checking out.

 

Huh, never would have thought I'd encounter fans of the film. Well, each to their own. I can't stand it, but people seem to enjoy it, so don't let me discourage people from watching it. I relish the thought of different viewpoints on films. Just my opinion, but my recommendation remains that if you want to see a good Final Fantasy movie, check out Advent Children Complete. Sure, I'll be the first to admit it's not a great film, but not only is it visually gorgeous but the characters actually make me care about what happens and the story is at least somewhat engaging and not entirely focused upon being a visual spectacle.

Sorry if my comment came off as rather brash or insulting, but when I really dislike something in media form I can be a tad... dramatic and exagurrated . Such as if anyone brings up Avatar or Equilibrium around me, oh ho boy.

 

Avatar.

Either way, I concur that Advent Children Complete is the better film, but it's a completely different film. Key work being different. One was taken from a popular game while the other was just a movie and nothing else. For what they did it was really good. You really can't compare to two since one comes from an incredibaly popular game and the other is just a movie. Of course people are going to want to see the famous people again

 

Oh it's no problem, as you said, different people have different opinion.

I, for example, have a disliking for the Advent Children film, but that is probably because I have a great deal of bias against anything VII related.

It is interesting though, it often seems that fans fall into two camps, those who like AC and those who like SW. I don't know many people who like both.

 

Apparently I'm the loner, who likes both. Seriously, am I just the guy who has to break that rule for everything? People say your either like or dislike Beowulf, I was inbetween, people say the same for Final Fantasy movies, I'm inbetween. Am I just the guy who's meant to stay out of camp and get soaked in the rain?

 

I said there aren't many people that /I/ know that like them both, it could just be that the people I know are less appreciative of them both. Its possible that there are a great many people who like both. Besides, it isn't a bad thing to be inbetween things, it means you fit in with both :ninjacat:

 

I am kinda split on Spirits Within. It is not a good Final Fantasy movie at all. It has nothing to do with Final Fantasy, none of the games, it doesn't even have the tiny things like chocobos and moogles, it is in no form way or shape an Final Fantasy movie. However, it is a pretty good Sci-fi movie, which I actually enjoy a lot, I am not the biggest fan of sci-fi movies in general, but I do like this one quite a bit.

So really, I find it a horrible Final Fantasy movie, but a good sci-fi movie. If I am to give more insight then I will have to watch it again it's been a couple of year, which I probably should. I actually bought it on blu-ray last year and I haven't watched it yet, maybe I'll do it this weekend since I have nothing better to do.

Ps. I enjoy Advent Children as well, but I have to admit, if it didn't have the FFVII characters I wouldn't like it. Like it is a lot with rather poor sequels of great games/films

 

Now, I hadn't thought about it in that way before, but now you've said that, I am inclined to agree. However, whilst there might not be chocobos and moogles, I do think it fits in with FF in terms of themes and story elements

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for example the love story in which one of them ultimately dies, sacrifice, the battle of Good vs. Bad, life-forces etc.

 

I was of course not talking only about the fact that there are no chocobos and moogles, if that was all that mattered then I could have said it was semi-Final Fantasy by just having Cid in there xD There are other things about it that makes it seem less like a Final Fantasy movie too, like for instance; it takes place on Earth, in the future, they go to Old New York City, so there is no made up world like in every other Final Fantasy games/movies. It's just too real in general, too rooted in the real world to be a Final Fantasy movie. Guns, not swords. Technology, not magic. Aliens, not monsters.

You do have some good point though, and I agree to an extent, but most of that stuff is used in a lot of sci-fi/fantasy movies and games, so in the end I still think that they just had the movie finished and thought "This would make more money if we slapped Final Fantasy on the box!" Which miserably failed of course, and almost drove Square out of business and they had to team up with Enix xD

 

Well, not every Final fantasy needs Swords, magic, and the works. That's just what we've grown up with. It's like saying you can't have Kingdom hearts without Sora. But we have

 

That is fundamentally wrong. You can't have Kingdom Hearts without the keyblade, Disney and Final Fantasy. As long as you have those elements you have Kingdom Hearts. Also the fact that the story relates to one another. "Call of Duty would still be Call of Duty without guns, armies and a war. You could make it a puzzle game and it would still be the same game"

There is a reason why it has the name Fantasy in the title, it's because it's supposed to be fantasy, not science fiction. It's supposed to have swords, magic, traversing the forest, the works. By your logic you could still call it Final Fantasy no matter what the actual content of the movie or game was. It has nothing to do with the other installments in the series and therefore it is just a sci-fi movie with the Final Fantasy brand name slapped on it.

 

umm, I am calling it Final fantasy no matter what the actuall content of the movie or game is, because that's what the title is

 

There are actually people that like this film? Color me surprised.

The only redeeming feature the film had at the time was its graphics, and they haven't aged well at all.

Go watch Ghost in the Shell instead.

 

Then you seem to have completely missed the point I was making. What I was saying is that it is a Final Fantasy movie only in name, and as a Final Fantasy movie it is a terrible movie. On it's own it's a pretty good one though. Do I really have to explain this more? Because I already have given my reasons while you have only said "But it's in the title and therefore it has to be true!" Thanks for the input, Jeff.

Now I shall leave this thread unless someone actually has a real arguement or something similar.

 

only trying to say that you can't just group something in with its title. Just cause it has the word fantasy doesn't literally mean it has to have fantasy. And when you pay attention, it actually does have a bit of fantasy in the movie, it's just more science fiction than other things

 

What, I agree with Chris again? What's the world coming to?
Just like Christhor said, horrible FF film, decent sci-fi film. Though I always viewed it as a 'testing-the-waters' kind of thing from Square. Hell, they planned on using the protagonist as a virtual actress and have her play different roles in other movies.

You're missing the point. He isn't saying that it isn't 'fantasy' despite having 'fantasy' in the title, he's saying that it isn't Final Fantasy despite having Final Fantasy in the title. The Cid's name was even spelled Sid, not Cid.
If I made a game called Pokemon Metal where the main character is a blue robot that has to fight 8 robot leaders before fighting the final four robot masters and taking all of their powers, that's Megaman even if it has similar points to Pokemon and has the Pokemon name. He's not saying it's a different company, just that it betrays the name of Final Fantasy.