We'll forgive you because of the server errors. :D

I agree with what you guys said when saying a good female character is just a well written character. They have flaws, strengths, and is just a normal person. I think the thing about Strong Female Characters being stereotyped as "The Woman Who Kicks Ass" is that for a long time women have been in submissive roles in storytelling. Always the damsel in distress, waiting for their prince to come, and being nothing more than a trophy. And I agree with what Misty said with how these can be well written characters. An example is "Into The Woods". It contains the classic Cinderella story, but it has her questioning what's going on.

Two things that I saw around the same time was "Agent Carter" and "Big Eyes". Both of these stories take place during the (relative) same time period, and their main protagonist is a female. I honestly think that Margret Keane (as portrayed in the film, I know nothing of her in real life) was a much stronger character than Peggy Carter was.

Agent Carter really put it in your face that Peggy was in a world dominated by men, so much so, that it seemed really comical and unrealistic. Everything that was said by anyone other than Peggy was how dominate men were at this time, and how much better she is. It kept hammering that message that it couldn't be considered an undertone. It was so unbaringly preachy that I didn't even finish the series.

However, with Big Eyes, it is clear what the social system was in the film, but it wasn't in your face about it. Margret was submissive to her husband, but her motivations of staying with him made her really strong. She was doing it to give her daughter the life she never had. And the very second her daughter wasn't safe, she left her husband. She was a completely selfless character and did everything in her power to protect her family.

I GET IT GUYS I'LL GO SEE MAD MAX SOON

Yay mentioning Final Fantasy VIII without negativity ._.

Ugh why am I the only one hyped for Arkham Knight.

(psssst Dead or Alive 5 is a damn good fighting game...just ignore the costumes you don't like. Hell, even the guys get skimpy if you want some equality. It's no worse than Soulcalibur now.)

A little late maybe, but I'm totally here for an E3 live streaming thing. Not sure my time zone permits participating though...

We'll pretty much be going all day, so you may be able to join us for a conference or two! There's a stickied topic in our gaming section with all the times across different time zones.