Don Mattrick insults armed forces

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  1. Sara Tea Drinker

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    Sorry if this is in wrong area, and kudos for Hatok finding this and posting it in Spam Zone or I wouldn't have found it. There has been a lot of controversy over the Xbox One's requirements, and a lot of anger from people in the armed forces who don't have a good enough Internet connection to be able to meet MS's new standards. In an Interview with Spike tv, he spoke during the "down time" when they had technical difficulties with the microphone about his opinion on the One. It caused such a backlash after it was posted that Spike was asked to remove it, but not before someone else posted the video and the news now has their hands on it:

    http://thecontrolleronline.com/2013...tick-with-360-if-you-dont-like-always-online/

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    Anyone who doesn't know who Don Mattrick is, he's the president of the Interactive Entertainment Business branch of Microsoft.

    I couldn't believe it when I saw it, I still don't partially believe he said that. I liked 360 but wasn't planning on buying a One because I don't meet the requirements despite me not serving. I do have two friends who serve/are in training to serve in a submarine who haven't replied to me sending the link to them, but it's downright insulting in my opinion and there's no excuse for it.
     
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    He works for the marketing department, he' s paid to insult our intelligence. The XBoned is just so blatantly ****** no amount of perfume can ever hide its smell. At this point I just find it comical. I just grab the popcorn, sit back, and watch them shoot untold amounts of bullets in their own foot.

    http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=586406
     
  3. Sara Tea Drinker

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    Actually, he's an exec of the branch. Which is probably marketing, but with a fancier title and more of a salary.

    These comments really anger me and a lot of people in the armed forces. If you read past all the trolling (and there's a ton of trolling, I don't recommend it.) There's countries that are from third world/second world countries who are pointing out the flaws, members of the armed forces, and people who are in the U.S. who just have bad Internet or even just unstable Internet. (Me and anything past half an hour in my state. Not kidding.)

    These comments really just say: "You have to be rich and/or live in a area where you have perfect connection with Internet companies bending over backwards and a perfect modem that never fails you for you to have this system. If not, just get the PS4 and/or 360, we don't want you."

    It's just insulting, I see another firing and massive apology going out. Though it won't change anything, this is entertaining, I have to agree with you there.
     
  4. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I don't see this as insulting?
    He just made an accurate comment, a nuclear sub would not likely have a wi fi connection or any real reception that would make a XboxO a viable platform for an underwater serviceman.

    Most armed forces serving abroad have access to wi fi, albeit, maybe not the best quality. Wi fi is too integral for the military not to have access to it on bases as a way to share information and keep in contact. Anyone serving above sea level is likely to have access to it.

    I don't see there to be any reason to hate the Xbox One, some people love it, and rightly so should people have the opinion and option to pick the company they wish to support and the console they want to play on. All I know is I don't want it. I loved the Xbox360 over the PS3, a personal choice even if a lot of people thought I picked the 'wrong' one. It's the market, discussion and community outcry that will change things.
     
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    I have to respectfully disagree, Peace...

    A lot of soldiers use the 360 as downtime to relax after a hard day of defending the U.S.. The Navy contact uses it as downtime from his training and when he goes on a nuclear sub, kill time until the next shift. A lot o the armed forces bought the 360 for this reason.

    I feel it says: "You choose to defend our country and because of that, you can't have the same rights as any other American consumer has." It's not a direct insult, but i find a lot of it insulting and so do a lot of people who are in the armed forces. A guy retired from the Navy where I posted this thanked me for alerting the game reviewer of such nasty comments because he found it insulting to him. That's saying something.
     
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    Huh ? There' s no such thing as a right to be able to use any next-gen console ever released. Products are rarely designed for everyone, more often than not they' re build with a specific target in mind and ignore everyone else. Handicapped or left-handed persons, to name a few. It happens everyday, for products far more vital than a stupid XBox, yet I can' t hear any public outcry over it.

    I agree with PaW, this is disastrous for their image but they' re not insulting anyone.
     
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    Maybe I did over exaggerate it a bit, but the comments are still pretty bad. I mean, just the "go to 360 if you have bad Internet connection" alone is pretty bad when you're trying to see your next generation console. Especially in an interview.
     
  8. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Not exactly. Don specifically countered Geoff's point of not getting and XboxO if you don't have internet by saying if you want an offline service, go to the 360. He's still promoting the Xbox brand, which MS are supporting still with things such as World of Tanks and two games free per month till the XboxO launch. A lot of the games released in the next year will still be available on PS4 and 360, and the consoles are now both fairly cheap, getting cheaper when the next gen launches hit.

    If marketed right, 360 will still be a viable platform for everyone.

    Honestly, if you're against the XboxO, then be happy it can't be used by the military, it means more support for the PS4 since it's what they'll have to buy as an alternative. XboxO is more marketed towards home entertainment these days anyway, not really the environment of a nuclear submarine mess room I imagine.
     
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    True, but the 360 most likely will reach obsoletes at some point. Note: Most likely, I can't tell the future.

    Maybe it'll stay until the brand new console after this if MS makes it that far, but most likely not. The lifespan of a new console after the new one comes back is usually very short, though some have lasted longer than the new one. (I.E.: The Atari 2600 off the top of my head.)

    Maybe it's best that they support the PS4 because of MS screwing them. But the comment was still out of line and insulting to other countries. I see your point, but still semi-disagree with the way that he said it and/or handled the situation.[DOUBLEPOST=1371149705][/DOUBLEPOST]An interesting note:

    Don Mattrick who is being interviewed and I mentioned before, is from EA. He left in 2007 to Microsoft. Oh yeah, I spoke to my friend who's training to be in the Navy. He said it's all over the base this news and he finds it funny and insulting at the same time. He's also refusing to buy the new system though he plays several games on the 360.
     
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    Recommending a console that's about to be obsoleted may not be an intentional insult, but it is ignorant and rude. A lot of people are losing out on the Xbox One; does Mattrick think that these people will settle for second best? Does he not think these people are entitled to enjoy the frontier of the gaming industry? Why do they have to be stuck in the last five years instead of moving ahead with everyone else?

    I've never been a fan of the MS brand, but that doesn't mean I want them to pull ass-backwards stunts like this that intentionally drive their games branch into the ground. I mean, it's funny to watch such a big-name company make such small-brained mistakes, yeah; but the reality is, there are good, friendly people who are interested in Xbox, and they're going to have hell waiting for them in this generation. We should all be able to have our cake and eat it too - preferably without having to shout "XBOX - BAKE A CAKE" instead of press a button, or check in with Xbox Live before we're allowed to eat it... And for godsakes, don't give some of us a week-old cookie instead. That's just insulting. Like how I came full-circle there?
     
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    It's not the military that are affected by this comment. After Mattrick posted this, I heard a lot of people saying:

    "What if you live in a country area?"

    I live in a country area on the East Coast. I luckily didn't get hit hard by Superstorm Sandy, but I know NJ and NY were especially hard hit and lost a lot of their power, not just the rich people on the shore, either. They lost their Internet for WEEKS, their cell phones for as long if not longer, there's a storm that hit where I lived once where 25 million people were without power for months. It took six states to fix the problem.

    No matter where you are, no matter if it's at a base on Afghanistan, the middle of the ocean, Death Valley, Silicon Valley or somewhere along the East Coast. Things happen, storms hit, the Internet goes out, **** happens. If that ever happens, anyone can end up with a 500 dollar paperweight if I don't even try to get a connection. I have found more people who think it's stupid that I live in the country and a place where I enjoy it despite my somewhat bad internet, there's people who think if they don't like the policies that are in the military, people who risk their lives every day fighting in a war for years at a time with no way to talk to home 90% of the time should go home crying to their mommy.

    I know there's trolls out there, but the fact that those words started with a president who says if you live where I am, I don't have the right to buy what I want with my own hard earned money. I find a deep insult to me and a lot of other people, not only in this country, but places like Spain, Africa, Asia, and probably some places in Russia amongst others who just was insulted for living in a place they like to live in or are doing something with their lives to make mine better.

    I know this will drive MS hopefully to the ground and they'll come back in a year with not only an apology, but a much better system, but until they do, they've just destroyed themselves and they keep on continuing with their actions. They haven't tried to lift a finger to fix their problems and damage that they're doing to their consumers and keep on stubbornly plowing on thinking that they'll win from sheer ego. I am glad that I have an option to walk away and get a PS4 instead.