Do you think...

Discussion in 'General & Upcoming Kingdom Hearts' started by Twilight's Rose, Dec 27, 2007.

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Is this all because Ansem?

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  1. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Do you think that everything that has been happening is Ansem's fault? I mean, if he never had studied the hearts, Xehanort and the other apprentices would have never wanted to do experiments and separte their hearts from their bodies and turn themselves into Nobodys and Heartless. And the organization would have never existed!mSo what do you think? Is this all Ansem's fault?
     
  2. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    Even though he tried to prevent it... he did cause it
     
  3. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Exactly! Ansem's desire to have more wisdon of the heart cause a dramatic and drastical event that ruined hes identity, killed many people, ruined hes world and cause monsters to appear. Its very clear that all is happening because of him!
     
  4. Nobody's Shadow Kingdom Keeper

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    To an extent it was Ansem's research that sparked most events throughout the Kingdom Heats games. But really every choice made has it's own reaction. Xehanort had the choice of joining the research team and therefore much of the fault lies with him. If Xehanort had never joined the team, who knows, maybe one of the other apprentices would have taken his place and impersonated Ansem, or perhaps the whole study of hearts and heartless would have finished without a hitch and none of the events in the game would have occurred.
     
  5. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Good point there, but, still I don't see the point for Ansem to study the hearts, its just plain wron to get into someone's heart without any knowing of the chaos it may bring!
     
  6. Valium Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I think that Ansem is responsible for heartless thats about it The amount of heartless is Xehanorts fault he's the one that made the machine to create heartless
     
  7. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    Ansem is moreevil than he seems.......
     
  8. Nobody's Shadow Kingdom Keeper

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    It's a wonder why half the things on earth are studied, people just crave knowledge. Besides, if it wasn't Ansem, no doubt some other person would have picked up the research.
     
  9. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Another good point. But that person could be someone more wise. He would know the events that would surround the beings if its study its gotten deeper...
     
  10. SilverAngel Moogle Assistant

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    I think that Ansem is absolutely responsible for all the trouble happening in Kingdom Hearts series. His research just set the ripples of the storyline. Who knows, the whole thing could start off the story differently if someone else were to continue his research, just like what NobodiesShadowX said. The events continue on with every choice made. Even though he tried to stop it, that has set more events in the story, ones that can be good or bad.[COLOR]
     
  11. Nobodies* Moogle Assistant

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    k heres the thing if he didnt find out about heartless someone would have and then it would be like this only a littel bit different but then again keyblades have been around for alot longer than ansem so its hard to say for sure
     
  12. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    I guess if he didn't then we wouldn't know how to stop them, but yeah
     
  13. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Another good point. But still, the keyblade existed many years ago, before than the KH events. The Haertless were beggining to appear after the BBS events. Because in BBS there isn't any Heartless nor Nobody. Xehanort is responsible for the multiplication of Heartless and Nobodies. While Ansem, maded them appear!
     
  14. keybladexweilder Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah. He did try to stop it, but he did cause it. so,yeah I guess it is.
     
  15. Solid Snake Kept you waiting, huh?

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    No cuz he told Xehanort not to study hearts any more but he did anywayz
     
  16. Raina Gummi Ship Junkie

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    yea all his fault ,whole stories because of him
     
  17. Twilight's Rose Banned

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    Yes but if he nevered study the hearts Xehanort would have nevered do what he has doned until now!
     
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    I think part of it is Diz fault too.
     
  19. Redeyesblackdragon Twilight Town Denizen

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    I say it may seem like its Ansem's fault, but i think if he didn't find out some one else would have, therefor recreating the whole kingdom hearts series.
     
  20. Mixt The dude that does the thing

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    DiZ is just what Ansem called himself after Xheanort stole his name. Anyway there is a quote in FMA that works great here

    "We all had our reasons and they seemed right to us. No one wanted a war but that is what we got and now we must all share in the blame"

    You can blame many people for what happened but the fault is actually on everyone for the choices that they made. Big or small it doesn't matter, they all played some role and therefore affected the final outcome. There are probably even more people that it's possable to blame that haven't even made their way into the story.
     
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