Creationism vs Evolution

Since the old topic was getting very old, recycled, and spammy, I have created this new topic for more discussion. And also, I gave this one a more proper title. This new title includes all religon-based beginnings, not just christianity, so please discuss them all instead of ganging up on the christians.

And so...the debate topic is...

Which do you believe to be true? Creationism? Which version? Or Evolution?

WHY!?!?!?!!?1?!!?!?!!?1?1!?1?TWO

Ready...set...DEBATE.

 

Well, I really never have seen a Muslim or Jew here, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Evolution, ofcourse. Natural selection is simple to understand if you look at it logically. There's mountains of evidence for it. For example, fossils are arranged underground EXACTLY as evolution predicts (it throws it a curve once in a while, but that just means that evolution is a healthy theory. Plus, all the bumps are straightened out).

NOTE: Evolution is a theory. But, then again, so are cells, atoms, molecules, numbers, gravity and many other things that are fact. Theory in science is not the same in culture. A theory in science is a group of tested/able ideas that explain a known phenomena.

Theif. :P j/k

 

Well I don't belive in god. I have a hard time beliving that it's someone up in the sky that is supposed to save us all. I also have a hard time beliving some of the things that have happened in the bible.
After all the things I've seen it makes it hard to really belive in a god.
As an athiest I belive in evolution. Also that you can be free and fine your own answers, and your own path.

 

Yay, some debate fun. Cin you physco.XD

Well, Evolution makes since out of everything, but then it comes to what people believe in their hearts. Evolution would be more logical, and could very well be proven, but then any kind of Religion can prove things in their own way. Me? Well, I believe in god, but I don't go against science. I say they both have a way in the world, and that is why we're where we are at now. Corny? Yes, I know.XD

 

I think I'm going to have to go with Evolution once again. If religion works for you, great. But to me it just seems darn right silly to think some being up in the sky snapped his fingers and created life in little under a week.

I'm not saying here that such a thing couldn't have happened but at the present time, evolution of life has proof that, let's face it, religion is lacking at the present moment. Evolution has tangible things we can see and touch.

No one can see and touch the god...or gods if you prefer...who are in some myths are responsible for life.

 

I do not feel we understand evolution entirely, of course, but we improve upon it as it is examined and we gain further data. In the end, at least there is that data. So I support studies and work to also contribute to comprehending evolution more as it is something I can do and note visibly through history, fossils, geological information and biological adaptations that occur right in our lifetimes.

I am glad the topic changed to Creationism versus Evolution because as I had noted before, not all religions expressly say that evolution could not have transpired and also not all Christians or others of the monotheistic faith really buy the Bible story. More aware followers do not try to hold up a two fingered cross and hiss at science.

 

What would you say when you come to it? Lawl. Most people probably just don't say it.

Well, I really never went to the evo.vs.religion thread. Most of that topic is for people smarter than me, and know their way around the things of evolution and such. That is not me.

I'll say that in logic, people will go for evolution. IMO, people see what is proven. But spiritually, you can believe in a higher being and such. Either way will make you act on what you believe in. I can't really say much, so that's it.

 

I wouldn't say we are smarter than you. We just read a lot more into the subjects. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion though and if you read through some of the posts there, it may help you see a bit of evolution and also of creationism so that you can make a choice or stay neutral, but with some knowledge under your belt. Also, if you wanted to ask about either, please feel free to. Knowledge is power, after all.

 

100 % For Darwin.

I do not stick with the theory of "P00F! We're here." Evolution has a back up, and science can prove we do have a similar brain to a monkey, Monkeys have a yellowish pink brain and so do human beings.

I do not know much about other God's like Ala. Nothing at all actually, I know of the Christian God though. The Church is pressuring us, I got detention for a week, just because I said what I think is more logical.

 

I agree with this fully.

Are they even aloud to give you detention for speaking out what you think is right? What happened to the first ammendment? Anyways....

With Evolution, we have soild proof. We have multiple fossils, and with carbon dating, we can tell when they lived, and if their were even humans around.

Evolution for the win.

I just realized that no one here yet has sided with the church. There for it isnt really a debate.

 

Do you go to a Christian school or something?

 

Yes, I go to Catholic School. Aerith->Also how could Adam and Eve's kids have kid's if they were all Male? There's a downfall for a church.

 

Thats true.

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But there was the mother...*flinches*

But I dont think the church would support that theory either, so they are cornered.

 

I mostly believe in Evolution. It makes a lot more sense.

If I'm right (which I'm probably not, I've only been to church once in my life) the Bible states that God made the earth and crap in "a week." I find it impossible for someone to make planet and such in a week. Even for a man in his power, it sounds phoney. The fact that a universe was somehow created and a bunch of asteroids combined to make a planet or whatever sounds a lot more realistic.

Evolution wins.

 

Well, Christians, especially YECs, believe that their God is omnipotent, meaning he can do ANYTHING. So, "it's impossible for it to be created in 6 days" isn't a good arguement. A better arguement is that the fossil record contradicts the literal 6-day creation, and even Noah's literal world-wide flood.

 

That's because Noah's flood never happened.

This is a little off topic...but yeah...

Noah's ark was a directly plagiarized from the epic of Gilgamesh--a Japanese story about how there was a huge flood and they had to use an ark to save 2 of every animal. Then once they reached land they had the sacrifice and the release of the dove.

Moses' story and history was also a polarization of Sargon, a deity who has the exact same life as Moses. Showing that Moses could not have ever existed in that way.

For those who don't know, Moses was released into a river in a basket to prevent possible harm to him, he was later captured by royalty and raised as a prince.

However, this is also the same story for numerous OTHER figures in both Religion and Greek Myth.

Much like this, Jesus' life also shows huge similarities to religious book-marks before him. The similarities and the amounts of the people like him go on and on.

 

precisely.

 

This is a debate, Dreadnaughtsoilder. Not only a debate but an INTELLIGENT debate. Meaning you CANNOT post one word responses like you just did. You should provide REASONS and LOGIC in your posts as to WHY you support either side.

Do this and MAYBE people will take you seriously. You have a world of information at your fingertips. There is NO excuse for such limited posts.

 

I'm lazy and supposed to be doing HW so i didn't bother to read the other posts so sorry if this came up allready.

I beleive in a balance between the two. Afterall if there is someone powerful and intelegent enough to create everything from scatch, wouldn't he/she/it be smart enough to create a system to adapt to the ever changing world?

 

(Migration complete I suppose.)

Once more I find common ground with the evolution side in this debate. Not only from the variety of evidence produced in science's favor but the lack of reasonable logic on many of the creationism's parts.

However for now this is all I can really say on such a 'clean slate' debate. I'm usually one more prone to react to other's statements rather then stating every detail of my own on the first go..... 8P