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  1. Fayt Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Hey guys its finalformsora3/adida here my suggestion to this place is to have possibly mov files or avi files here, seeing how dedicated window users use this more than anyone else makes it harder for Mac and Apple users to use the footage. programs for many windows are bugged for enabling Mac users to not use windows and degrading to spend the money to even use footage i have a Mac and the newest IE7 right now for pro. The reason why i say this is cause i converted the kh vids to avi and mov and the quality is 10% worse from screen to screen comparison for reliable resources of downloading here. I recommend this for not just channeling and popularity and contributions to this site but as well to benefit others from this site. I did all my videos by kh vids. i dont believe in best quality just a personal style of taste when i hear it though i will go onto other resources to download. The best is mov files cause it is a Default WMV file for the Mac/Apple for apple users so the avi file wont make the scenes darker from what i noticed like a saturated contrast. I hope you understand and also my credit to using footage on this site. Or use too.

    Yes cause its Wmv i cant use it. Please read whole description

    yes if there was a download wmv and mov file that would be cool.


    I think AVI is nice but If you do that, Your Gonna be like BlueLaguna.net re-visioned again that way; You would be having the clips kinda for nothing besides maybe restoring some clips you guys Lost; if you know what I mean, no comparison or anything but just saying for your guys Role. It Glitches as well and goes black screen completely in 1 mil. sec or even more, it is a hassle for editors like us to even deal with or even consider to download this is why I choose this place no matter the quality, I would make the video look like it was a good effort regardless.


    My SOLUTION Besides the MOV if its gonna be that much a burden to make 2 copies for you guys.

    Is MP4 cause I had no problems using this. PC or MAC and I will explain why, you can give all the specs but easier 'said than done'

    MP4 In very high quality is nice for video I will edit my first post about that. But I think the WMV is nice but adding a MOV would be cool if you guys could do that cause of Default WMV is for Windows and Default Mac is for MOV; I will admit my use to be PC and Mac can read the MP4 just fine so that would be the best Idea, Cause one; It's Different

    Two it may even turn out to be better in the quality resource if you guys are worried about that

    Three, it will make you different from a few independent people who already do AVI files for their stuff.

    As far as i am concerned in my eyes I have seen MP4 look as good or better than AVI in that stance; I am a graphic designer I would know about quality and imaging.

    And for the record it may be something to look into; I am not gonna lie about that; though my main concern is , if that even gets done or are we gonna keep the WMV going on and there is no solution for even my suggestion I tried to make the effort to post here.
     
  2. ShibuyaGato Transformation

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    Maybe what they could do instead is try to have one set of the clips in WMV for those who prefer it and one set in MOV for the people who couldn't use them otherwise...
     
  3. Fayt Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah but thats if they do it i wish. Im gonna message them and found out their opinion
     
  4. Noroz I Wish Happiness Always Be With You

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    I'd definitely say replace the wmv's with AVI, because even though AVI is bigger, the quality should definitely be better, and I think I speak for every (decent) AMV'er out there that Quality >>> Download/Upload time.
     
  5. ShibuyaGato Transformation

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    I disagree because even if they were in avi that doesn't necessarily do much for quality.

    Go on KH-13 and look at their KH2 FM clips! They're in WMV and they're great quality. It all depends on how the clips are captured from the game.
     
  6. Guardian Soul hella sad & hella rad

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    Actually most of the time, .avi files do have better quality than .wmv files. The way they were captured doesn't really change the quality; it's the way that they're compressed that affects the quality of a video and .avi has a lot more codec options than .wmv which allows for better compression in the end.

    The only problem I see with your suggestion is that somebody is gonna have to record those scenes all over again. You just can't convert .wmv to .avi, there would be a loss in quality. In the end, it depends if our video recorder has the time to do it.
     
  7. Noroz I Wish Happiness Always Be With You

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    That's true, but AVI is generally better in quality, because wmv is usually a smaller file, because it compresses more, usually. There are of course instances where it's different, but usually, AVI has better quality. I don't know if the difference is too big, but there usually is.

    The other reason for using AVI though, is that it's
     
  8. Fayt Merlin's Housekeeper

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    This is why I said .MOV files instead lol im not looking at best but average resolution quality i dont care about AVI files cause bluelaguna has avi. It would be footage for nothing then. Thats why im here suggest MOV or something MAC or Apple will accept please read first post these posts are thoughtful but now its becoming personal perfernce please read first post
     
  9. ♥♦♣♠Luxord♥♦♣♠ Chaser

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    I have no idea why I thought of this but I may be right.
    Bigger file size probably isn't good for the server speed.
     
  10. ShibuyaGato Transformation

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    Yeah, the longer it takes for someone to download something, the slower the server speed, and if multiple people are doing it at the same time then... There's always MPEG...
     
  11. Mixt The dude that does the thing

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    I'm currently looking into doing a recording of the PS2 games for the sake of removing subs, and I was going to have them in AVI.

    I'm still tryig to work a few things out but if anyone has any requests for it (display size, compression type, etc.), I'll be happy to look into it.
     
  12. Fayt Merlin's Housekeeper

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    640 x 480 is the size full screen resolution for youtube; I know for sure, but the problem is I don't know if thats what you're looking at since I have done it on one of my video's for proof

    Example - Click here
    which I used Avi files from the final fantasy site itself, it is a full screen video display on youtube; compression type I don't think is much of a problem though, well in my opinion 7z, ZIP or RAR their all openable On the Pc I use to have and on my mac right now so no Complaint for that part.

    IF that does NOT work try yourself and upload a 640 x 480 clip and a 1280 x 720

    The reason why I say this is cause the final fantasy, The Clip Was 1280 x 720

    Then When I saved and Uploaded the Video I put it to 640 x 480
     
  13. Mixt The dude that does the thing

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    640*480 can't be right. That is in standard (4*3) and the player is widescreen (16*9). The game displays in 4*3 anyway, I was mostly getting at do people want it to be 1440*1080, 960*720, 640*480, etc.

    Also I was referring to video codec, not the file compression. That I was going to make zip (unless someone provides a good case against it.
     
  14. Fayt Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Well if uploaded wouldn't it change the resolution of that size? or are you asking just a personal taste of what the size?? Anyway to get it the full screen with no black on the sides without a pan/crop option for the media player would be pretty good, though those were my results from that video.
     
  15. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    We've always wanted to do mirrors for the video downloads but we lack the people to help us with that. We currently only have one active media recorder for us who provides the videos in .wmv format. We could always take video donations if people want to help, like if mixt wants to donate his videos to us with the KHV intro on them we can give him credit for that. Since most of our older videos are in lower quality, it would be pointless to convert them... so we're going to see if we can get our hands on better quality videos of a different format. Just one of the many things on our to do list.
     
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    I'd also like to add that I too have been playing with the idea of capturing new cutscenes that are in higher quality (I have a capture card and all, and have been doing quality tests)--though if anyone wants to apply for a media content reporter position, we're happy to hear from you. But what you've got to remember with our videos is that a large number of them were recorded by Deathspank back in 2006-ish. Standards have increased since then, and if you factor in the amount of times that we lost all of the videos and had to have you guys send them in, they're looking a bit poor these days (I'm talking about the KH1/KH2 ones, the rest are pretty fantastic quality wise).

    On the count of server speed, that wouldn't be an issue for us because the videos are not stored on our server; we host them on Mediafire, which can work against us sometimes, but it means that our bandwidth isn't eaten up by people downloading.

    A priority for us has always been file size as well as quality, we realize that AMV makers like to have a variety of scenes to choose from, and that can add up in hard drive space. A solution I've been thinking about is, if we get to re-record KH1 and 2 in higher quality, we could offer both the original videos (that are usually under 100MB, if anywhere near that) and the videos that are larger in size (both in aspect ratio/frame size and file size).

    Formats, well, you may want to check your conversion settings--there are ways to convert without such quality loss, but we will keep in mind in the future that there are much more Mac users these days when choosing formats.

    There's a lot I'd like to do with the cutscene archive beyond that, like allowing bulk downloads (whether it be in zips or rars or torrents), and as RvR said, just more things on our to-do list. This is KH-Vids, videos are a big part of the site, and trust me when I say that we realize there are issues with our current system and we'd like to correct them. =]
     
  17. Fayt Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I tried many ways of converting with 8 different programs there was each a quality lost since the file was unreadable in the first place to use

    and programs to run windows on mac are bugged now days i tried those.

    I hope someone acts in this suggestion though sometime soon, Or Eventually; I'm glad you would like to correct them this is why i suggested this type of conversation to the thread. =]

    The Reason Why I Would Not Recommend AVI Even Though That is Not Bad And On KH Ultimania, as pointed out, does have great quality in WMV.

    But the AVI

    one It glitches; it goes black screen in 1 mil second and does it multiple times making it Burden In The First Place.

    2nd Which I think Is more important of All

    It darkens the resolution quality by 5% , the least, It might even be more which is a hassle in some scene editing;

    I think AVI is nice but If Your Gonna be like BlueLaguna.net that way; You would be having the clips kinda for nothing besides maybe restoring some clips you guys Lost; if you know what I mean, no comparison or anything but just saying for your guys Role for as quality goes I would like to see much better than them one day.

    My Solution Besides the MOV if its gonna be that much a burden to make 2 copies for you guys.

    Is MP4 cause I had no problems using this.

    MP4 In very high quality is nice for video I will edit my first post about that. But I think the WMV is nice but adding a MOV would be cool if you guys could do that cause of Default WMV is for Windows and Default Mac is for MOV; I will admit my use to be PC and Mac can read the MP4 just fine so that would be the best Idea, Cause one; It's Different

    Two it may even turn out to be better in the quality resource if you guys are worried about that

    Three, it will make you different from a few independent people who already do AVI files for their stuff.

    As far as i am concerned in my eyes I have seen MP4 look as good or better than AVI in that stance; I am a graphic designer I would know about quality and imaging.

    And for the record it may be something to look into; I am not gonna lie about that; though my main concern is , if that even gets done or are we gonna keep the WMV going on and there is no solution for even my suggestion I tried to make the effort to post here.
     
  18. ShibuyaGato Transformation

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    I agree with Fayt here. Even for some people, like me, who can't use MP4 format in Vegas or other programs I have a simple method of fixing that for PC users.

    I take the file, import it into WMM, and render it into HD widescreen WMV. It works and you can barely tell the difference. Quality wise, it still looks great, and it's an easy fix to the problem.
     
  19. Mixt The dude that does the thing

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    I'm going with avi because that is the only way I can record. Even if my recording software allowed something else I wouldn't want to, to compress while recording is almost guaranteed to result in quality loss. From there I want to keep it avi because applying a codec works better than changing the extension again to preserve quality. If there is demand for other formats I'm willing to convert and release them along side the avi, but it is something they should be able to do themselves.




    I would look into your player for that. It sounds like whatever player you were using to come to that conclusion is strugling to load frames and since AVI uses frame replacement instead of overlaying you would be left with breif flashes of usually black or green. But unless there are black frames in there it isn't a problem with the file.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "darkens the resolution quality" You seem to be combining three seperate concepts. Color (more specifically brightness), resolution, and image quality. Now I'll grant you that resolution and image quality are linked with a larger resolution being required for better picture quality, but I'm still not sure what you are actually trying to say.

    Well the quality on games does cap out. You are restricted by the quality of the models, and in the case of FMVs the quality of their video file (Which, now that I mention it, I should look in the coding section to see if anyone has/can rip them). So being "much better than them" isn't going to happen unless people want to spend untold ammounts of time on creating better models.

    Converting files is child's play. But every time you do you lose quality.

    Not an actual reason if you ask me. There are reasons for the norms. That isn't to say we should go lemming and make a mistake because everyone else is, but defying the norm because you can doesn't help anything.

    I can make a .bmp that looks better than a .jpg if you want me to. Just requires a crappy .jpg. In our case the difference is not so extreme, just saying that the possability of one surpassing the other does not make it better. I fail to see how MP4 can be better quality in general. Thus far the only problems I've had with avi is that uncompressed it tends to be too good and my computer can't keep up. mpeg-4 does have a few more features but none of them seem relevant to the project, such as support for transparency and DRM.

    This is just repeating point 1.

    You say so, and your editing skills are undenyable, but you don't speak the jargon well. And you seemed to have formed a bias against avi. I'm not trying to claim it as a miracle format, but I don't see a reason not to use it here.
     
  20. Kubo Kingdom Keeper

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    MKV x264 If you want high quality. xD