Beauty.

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  1. KHSauce Merlin's Housekeeper

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    What do we compare beauty to? What in us tells us what beauty really is? I thought it might be ourselves.. But it can't be that.. What makes beauty soft skin and rosy cheeks? What is the line that separates beauty from ugliness? Not only beauty, what about perfection? Perfection in a general sense means "no flaw", but what is flaw? What about everything else?
     
  2. White_Rook Looser than a wizard's sleeve.

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    In the eye of the beholder. That's all we're going to get out of this one.
     
  3. KHSauce Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I don't think it's that simple.. =(
     
  4. venster You never heard of me, but I pop in time to time

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    Beauty is what's in the inside. yay for cliche-ness! But beauty gets a little boost from outside appearence.
     
  5. White_Rook Looser than a wizard's sleeve.

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    please elaborate and I'll pose a rebuttal.
     
  6. Alice Banned

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    Yes, but for the most part beauty gets the horrible privilege of being defined by common culture.
     
  7. White_Rook Looser than a wizard's sleeve.

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    There are inclinations, but it's in what an individual believes to be beautiful that points them in the direction.
     
  8. Soushirei 運命の欠片

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    It really is that 'simple', though. What you think beauty is will vary among other people. No one's wrong; no one's right. There's no use trying to define it.

    The eye of the beholder, as said before.

    And my sympathy goes out to those who can't follow their own definition.
     
  9. Alice Banned

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    Ah, but do you really think the majority of the population of developed countries consists of people with their own opinion on life and such? Largely, citizens are influenced by idol and celebrity appearances and opinion. Stupid, but true.
     
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    Hmm.. Okay, what I meant was, what is it? No one has answered my question! What IS (outer) beauty? Why is beauty.. what it is? I know what "eye of the beholder" means, and that isn't what I'm talking about! It's hard to explain..
     
  12. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    I think the answer you are looking for you already know, what dictates beauty to the general public, is how provacative a company can make a person. Ever hear the term Sex Sells. Well it does, and since that is a driving force people take that outer beauty is all in muscles and bust size. To the common person who is naive enough to eat that up then that is their definition, where as for many people it is....drum roll please.....in the eye of the beholder.
     
  13. KHSauce Merlin's Housekeeper

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    >< Im asking that, what makes big muscles and busts attractive? WHY are they attractive? Why are they "beautiful" ?? I don't think I'm explaining the question well enough. Why is beauty, beauty? That's the only way I can think to explain it.. =(
     
  14. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    BECAUSE IT IS PROVACATIVE....sorry. It is what it is because that is what our minds define it as, some people may not like that. But in the eye of the general public it is, the majority of people find that they are for a lack of a better term "turned on" to it. It is what we have grown to know is beauty. In other countries there are certain qualities that are acceptable where unlike here they may be not. We find beauty it the environment we are raised in, it is what we are taught and have experienced growing up. It is what we have been trained to feel is perfect.
     
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    Because the public has come to think they are. Personally, I don't like bara guys. I'm okay with a little toning but bulky muscle is very unattractive in my opinion. You're asking opinionated questions here, like "Why is this your sexual preference?"
     
  16. KHSauce Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Okay, this question seems unanswerable so far. Actually it seems like no one understands what I'm even asking, that may be my fault, but I'm just going to leave this one alone.
     
  17. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    We understand what you are saying, I just don't know you are opening to the idea we are giving. Beauty is what stimulates the mind. And as Alice said, it is completely opinionated, no one can really say what it is that make beauty what it is, none of us are god and we don't have the answers. It is what we feel, inside that determines it, it is what society has done to our mind. People find that being provacative and showing skin is beauty then that is what it has evolved into, who know what it was before. 40 years ago I love lucy was ground breaking in the ideals it broke. Times change and the world moves on.(that was really cheesy)
     
  18. White_Rook Looser than a wizard's sleeve.

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    I sense a "chicken or the egg" debate coming on. From an evolutionary point humans have come to associate attractiveness with the chance of producing more offspring. Sex appeal in the form of muscle, facial structure, chest size etc. has been made beautiful because a majority of society and people deem it beautiful and thus beneficial to their procreation. Why that is is a matter of frivolity. What mainstream society and the media deem as beautiful is transient; in generations to come the image will be different and so on, as it has been in the past. You're not going to get a straight answer.

    And Alice I don't want to have to push this into a debate on free will within society, but I will say this: There's always a conscious choice, but in a world where children are being raised more by the television and what they see in movies that choice is often very nearly obscured. It's just a matter of how critical and conscientious people choose to be about what they watch, read and see.
     
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    There definitely is. But as you say it would seem that due to our media most stray away from it.
     
  20. Spitfire I'm a little high, and a little drunk.

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    Second that, it is easier to put a child in front of a television, then read to them or educate them.
     
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