Am i missing something? (SPOILERS)

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  1. Zeroxys Twilight Town Denizen

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    Okay so i never seen the secret ending to DDD till just a few moments ago, Master Yen Cid Says for the Keyblade war they need 7 lights to protect the 7 Pure hearts, (princesses of hearts), but am i missing something cuz it seems like theres 8 lights that can weild a keyblade, if im recalling correctly. Sora,Riku,Kairi,King Mickey,Lea,Aqua,Ven,Terra. Does Terra not count because hes taken over by Xeranort? or is it Ven or Riku? or is it not fully revealed yet, or still lots of speculation? im confused as hell right now :P.
    If someone has a very indepth answer thatd b awesome :)
     
  2. A Zebra Chaser

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    Wielding a keyblade does not make you a light.
    Lea most likely isn't a light.
    Terra is, Xehanort makes reference to that
     
  3. Krowley Moderator

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    Many theories are tossed around as to who are the 7 lights. Based off the Keyblade wielders who fought against Xehanort, the Candidates are; Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Xion, Ventus, Aqua, Terra, Eraqus, King Mickey, Yen Sid, and Lea. Sora, Riku, and Kairi are all sitll around, so it is highly likely that they will be part of the seven. (Maybe 2 out of 3 as a twist) Roxas and Xion currently reside in Sora, which would make it difficult for them to do anything as things are. Ventus' heart is a part of Sora's and he is still shown in his comatose state in Castle Oblivion. (Can possibly wake up before the final clash) Aqua is in the realm of darkness, but if luck enough can find the door to light, or some other means of escape. Terra is currently under Xehanort's possession, so unsure how well he could help in his current predicament. Eraqus was unfortunately defeated and can't really fight as he is well... not alive at the time. Yen sid is retired, and stuff so any sign of him with a keyblade wouldn't be counted on. King Mickey has been around since Birth By Sleep, and doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon. Lea has been around Darkness, but has potential to wield the blade, so he seems to be gaining more light.

    If I had to estimate, I would guess the 8 you mentioned, minus Terra, since i have a feeling he is still in Xehanort's clutches. Making a possible roster of Sora, Riku, Kairi, King Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, and Lea.
     
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    Eraqus is still technically around thanks to Terra. Roxas Xion and Ven are all heavily implied to be restored to full functionality to 'save them from their torment' and Terra is referred to as a light by Xehanort, saying one of them was under his control.
     
  5. Zeroxys Twilight Town Denizen

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    so its possible that maybe there is 10-12, as far as ideas/functions/theories, but since plot could choose otherwise itd b down to 7. I still Personally think Yen Cid is hiding something, not that he has any part in the keyblade war, but i feel like he hasnt revealed a vital piece of info to all of this yet.
     
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    A Kingdom Hearts game withholding vital plot points that completely change the story of the previous games? Madness!
     
  7. Zeroxys Twilight Town Denizen

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    Haha i kno, its a longshot, but just maybe theyre hiding something >.>
     
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    Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Ventus, Aqua, Terra

    I doubt that a Nobody and a copy of Nobody are going to be Lights. Especially considering one has already joined with Sora, making him whole, and the other one is just a copy and certainly won't be a Light if what she was copied from won't.

    Basically, the seven Lights are the seven most important Keyblade wielders, let's not pretend like it's anything more. Obviously the main 3 have to be in there, and it wouldn't make sense for Mickey to not be. That leaves three spots open. I've already said why Roxas and Xion won't be Lights, and if they won't be Lea certainly won't be, and it wouldn't make sense to have only two out of Terra, Aqua, and Ventus and then have Eraqas be a LIght (he's really not important at all.) It has to be Terra, Aqua, and Ven.
     
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    I don't think Terra, Aqua & Ven are any of the seven lights.

    Ven is in Castle Oblivion & nobody but Aqua knows exactly where in the castle he is. Terra is still in Xehanort's clutches. He'll probably be a darkness. And Aqua is in the Realm of Darkness. And I don't think anybody knows where she is either. Do I think they will be in KH3? Obviously. Ven, Aqua and Terra will probably be saved sometimes towards the end.


    I feel the seven are: Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Lea, Roxas & Xion.

    Think about it.. Roxas hasn't done ANYTHING.. and he's probably one of the most important characters in the series. And he's a fan favorite. And as much as people hate Xion, Nomura really likes her. I'm sure Nomura will make some storyline where Roxas and Xion come back. I hope so at least. Roxas is the biggest badass in Kingdom Hearts and deserves to be one of the lights. And to have Lea, Roxas and Xion back together would be awesome.
     
  10. Zeroxys Twilight Town Denizen

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    Roxas i could see as being a light, like u said hes a very important character, but at the same time...has done a single thing :P
     
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    Roxas, Xion, and Lea/Axel are not very important at all to the story. Their significance is limited to their own story in Days, and their relationship with themselves and their connection to Sora. Ventus, Aqua, and Terra each hold some significance of their own, and have not had any of their stories resolved. (They are also each the reason that the main three have Keyblades at all.) Roxas' story more or less ended in KHII; sure he has appeared since, and probably will again, but there is nothing left to do with the character. Xion is done, there's nothing more that can be or needs to be done with her, and Lea/Axel is now just along for the ride, he's not that important. Also, let's not forget that Roxas joined with Sora, and Xion faded. I'm pretty sure that you can't un-join a connection or disappearance without some major contrivance, and why bother when you have three perfectly good Keyblade wielders all in some form of distress waiting to be saved? Sounds like a story to me.


    What do you think KHIII is going to be about? It's going to be about assembling the Seven Lights to fight the Thirteen Darknesses, so the reasons you gave for why Terra, Aqua, and Ven can't be lights is incorrect, because those are they very issues that are going to be addressed and resolved in KHIII.

    If you made the people from Days the Seven Lights, why do anything at all with the people from BBS? Their importance would be gone because the Seven Lights would have already been assembled.

    Sorry to all the people who love Days and it's characters, but those characters (and Nobodies as a whole) are not what KH is solely about. All of the issues surrounding those characters have been resolved, meaning they probably won't be the focus at all anymore.

    (Nomura will probably pull some hokey thing about how Roxas and Sora combined are one light, let's be real)
     
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    I think out of anyone the choices are Sora,Riku,Kairi,Aqua,Ven,Mickey, and for the last one either Eraqus or Terra. considering one of Master Xehanort's current darknesses are Terra I'd assume Eraqus is the last one. The reason I lean towards Eraqus is that he's inside of Terra's heart,much like Master Xehanort is. We all know that Master Xehanort has come back for one reason or another so why not Eraqus? I'm pretty sure Nomura put him in Terra's heart for a reason.
     
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    One piece of two cents I always need to throw in with Eraqus. We don't know what he did with Terra that Xehanort took notice of. Many people people are sold to the idea that his heart took refuge in Terra's much like Kairi's in Sora's, but unless I missed it in an interview or something that is just a theory.

    As for the Lights I tend too look at the rundown like this. When Xehanort brought it up Mickey listed off Terra, Ven, Aqua, Sora, Riku, and himself; but he couldn't think of a seventh. To which Xehanort points out that He had taken Terra and Sora so they were three short. But then they regain Sora and we discover that Lea and Kairi can use the keyblade. So as KH3 opens we'll be looking to bring Ven and Aqua into the fold once more. However, for dramatic effect I doubt that it will be the final seven. But then we are moving forward enough and there are enough ways to do it (even without the added wrenches to the problem that we know they are going to pull).
     
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    There are only seven lights. Sora and Terra are ones since Xehanort mentioned it in DDD. Kairi is one as it shows in DDD's secret ending. So that leaves Aqua, Ven, Riku, Mickey and Lea. Out of those Lea is the most likely not to be a light.
     
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    Although I agree with you that Neither Roxas (That really is Ventus' Heart) and Xion (That is made from Sora's memories) will be Lights, I still think it is strange that Mickey pointed out that "Their hurts will be undone" like they were lost in darkness and lonliness... It seems that as THEY NEED TO BE SAVED (even though, they have no bodies or existence) the clear link to save them is Lea/Axel (who isn't a Nobody anymore) so I think he is eligible for Light, being the one conected to Roxas and Xion.

    Eraqus , Ventus , and Terra are "lost" , they also need to be saved (probably by Aqua) Eraqus after is "saved" will revert , and die, as he currently doesn't have a living body, Ventus will be back (Maybe containing Roxas memories as well proving "Roxas existence"), and Terra is Xehanort, so he can't be a Light for now.. he will be saved, but will not be a light.

    Mickey, Sora, Riku, and Kairi are safe bets.
     
  16. Zeroxys Twilight Town Denizen

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    Well of course Mikey, Sora, RIku and Kairi are safe bets :P. im just tryin to figure out who the other 4 are. I have however stated that i believe Master Yen Cid could b one of them seeing as how hes forming this team together and he is "Master" Yen Cid. Much light Xeranort is a darkness i think Yen CId could be a light or the last forming piece after the 7 are together. Maybe sacrifice himself so that the 7 can win?