Abortion is Murder?

Is abortion in your eyes murder?
I saw the question floating about at school, so I wonder what opinions people have on the topic.
So please proceed with your opinion.

 

So it's only murder if it's against the law?

 

Yes that's the harsh reality behind it. Even if it's for the law in my case it'll be considered a killing of a human being wrongfully. Therefore generally speaking yes it's murder if it's against the law.

 

Abortion is basically taking a life away...or killing someone. So yeah, its murder.

 

There is no opinion. Abortion is the purposeful action of taking the life of another human. It's murder.
Except it's legal.

 

If you were to attack a pregnant woman that resulted in her losing the baby, you actually can get arrested and sent to prison for murder/manslaughter I believe. I'm not 100% sure on that though so I may be wrong.

Obviously there is the whole debate on when exactly life begins, if life doesn't begin until the baby is born (as some people believe) then it can't be murder if the baby is aborted before then surely?

Anyways, I'm too tired to write an essay so I'll just give my opinion, its a very subjective issue. Yes it is the taking of a life, but I think there is more to it than that. If a woman is raped resulting in a pregnancy, I really don't think it would be fair to then label her a murderer for having an abortion.

I guess in the case of abortion you have to look at the wider picture before making a judgement. I don't see it as murder in the general way murder is viewed.

 

It is impossible and very wrong to label abortion in general as murder. As CtR has said, every situation is different.

In my mind it is the woman's choice, it is her body and she will have to live with the consequences of her actions. But I could condone the use of abortion as contraception.

Ugh, too subjective X_X

 

I consider it a murder. Because, a life, is a life. Taking that life away before its born doesn't make it not a life.

Your basically just stopping a person in his/her tracks before he/she gets to live life, it is murder. If I were to kill you now, or as your being developed, its still murder ethier way.

Otherwise is basically saying, if you kill someone early enough, its not murder.

 

Do you agree with every different law every different place has?
If rape was legalized, would you consider it right?


Anyways, yeah, like CtR said. Every situation is different. If a girl gets knocked up and aborts because out of lack of responsibility is different than a girl getting raped or a girl who may not survive the pregnancy or the baby not surviving or being born with a defect.
As to calling it murder, I don't like that word at all for any case.
If a girl gets raped and has an abortion, the pre born is still getting killed the same as if someone does it out of irresponsibility.
The worst cases I've heard were
1. The little Catholic girl who wasn't any older than 10 or 12 who was raped. She would not have been able to survive labor, had an abortion, and was excommunicated from the church.
2. A woman who was a prostitute without her husband knowing lost the baby in a "miscarriage."
Turns out she was marrying him for his money and he did something so she had an abortion at FIVE MONTHS just to get back at him.

 

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If she aborts, there are no consequences. No lessons learned.
I find it terrible to deny someone life because you don't want to deal with being pregnant.

The case with the 12 year old girl was of course different, especially considering neither her OR the children would have survived the ordeal. It's things like that that make me hate the Catholic church so much.

 

I agree that if another person kills your baby, it should be considered manslaughter. But this is not abortion.

As for abortion being murder: if abortion is murder, so is the killing of other life forms such as animals and plants. Why do we kill them? Cause of convenience. The same conveniences we have like condoms, birth control, and getting your tubes tied. If so, these things should also be considered denying life.

I personally would rather like to see a mother give birth to a baby when she's ready instead when she's still a teenager. It's a matter of taking responsibility of both lives (the mother's and baby's) when it comes to choosing abortion or not.

 

Why should the attacker be arrested for manslaughter for killing an unborn baby but the mother who aborts should not?

 

My thoughts on this are more than a little complicated by the fact that... well... I was an accident. I could have easily been aborted, and it may have benefited my mother. Or maybe not. It depends on how much I motivated her to do things to better both our lives versus how much of a burden I was to her.

I don't know, I'm still sorting my own feelings out. As for those who know me... Would you rather I'd been aborted? I guess whatever your answer is to that gives you your answer to this.

 

whatever reasons....killing is murder

 

I'm on the same boat as you here. I was conceived in a tent. My mom was 19, dad was 17. I was told they used a condom, but eeh..not too sure if I believe that.

I'm pretty grateful that I wasn't aborted. I've got a pretty bright future ahead of me, and I enjoy life. If my mom were to take that away from me just so she wouldn't have to deal with being pregnant, she'd be a terrible person, but she isn't.

Oh, and she did the reasonable thing and got a lot of help from her mom raising me in the beginning.

Anyway, I for one find it kind of DISTURBING that I even have to say that my mom did the "right thing" by not aborting me. The fact that KILLING YOUR BABY is even an option is disgusting to me. I mean seriously, all she did is anything a DECENT HUMAN BEING would do, and not kill me.

 

Abortion should be perfectly fine.

Especially in the case of someone being a rape victim. If a girl is raped and gets pregnant, she should not have to go through the agony of having a baby that way, especially if she's younger. If she wants to.. okay. But if a girl becomes a victim of some ******bag raping her and getting her pregnant, she should be able to abort it without a shitstorm starting.

I really don't see how it's murder. A fetus is not really a human yet. It's like calling a 13 year old an adult, kind of.

 

Just because there are no consequences doesn't make it murder. Maybe not in the eyes of the Church, though it is very morally wrong and still resulting in the death of a human being. Regardless of how young/premature they are, they are living. They don't have a mind of their own, though they are biologically living and growing. It's wrong to do it, though thats my opinion.

This is coming from a guy who supports abortion when fully necessary. Reasons are fairly obvious or they were stated in this thread already. Just because it's morally wrong doesn't mean that it can't benefit someones life, though at the expense of another.

 

Cause it's her body, her baby, not the attacker's.

Well of course not, you're already here. But if you were I think no one you would have known would know the difference.

I believe a decent thing to do would be provide a loving and caring home for a baby. If you're properly able to do these things and still live happily then by all means have one.

An interesting scenario came to mind: A single pregnant woman haves her baby aborted, because she was still in school and was barely able to support herself. Now in the years to come she will able to finish school, have a successful career and marry the love of her life, whom she'll have three children with. I believe this is the wishful thinking most pro-choicers have, instead of forcing a baby onto women.

We need to think of the consequences if abortion became illegal.

 

Abortion can be wrong and right completely depending on the situation. However, people have got to start thinking before they do anything. Abortion is taking away a life, however it's not always desirable to live.

If the baby is born into ****** consequences (and that is probably why the mother wanted an abortion in the first place) why isn't it better to be aborted, than born into misery? Not everyone have parents that can help them take care of the baby, some women are still in school and without an education how the heck are she supposed to take care of that baby(I know about child support, but that doesn't get you too far). A lot of teenage fathers often flee, and again, the mother is alone. It's incrediblly hard to bring up a child all by yourself.

A lot of people should never ever have gotten kids and a lot of pregnancies happen unintentionally. It should be up to the mother, or couple if an abortion is right.
People should get kids out of love, but also because they feel responsible enough to take care of another human being, and bring it up to be a good person. Girls that get pregnant because the condom broke, but keep it because babies are cute, isn't always cut out to be great mothers or couples that accidentally get pregnant and think "why the heck not" are not in all cases good for the baby. You have to consider that it's actually another human being you're taking responsibility for. Of course many babies that could've been aborted grow up to have nice lives, but a lot of those babies don't.

As for right now, I'm not even sure if I ever want a baby, just look at the world, it's basically tearing apart (yet it's beautiful) but kids that get born these days have to solve one heck load of problems. If a woman is forced to bring up a baby, it can be the best that ever happened to her, but also the worst. She might have to give up her entire future to take care of the baby, and that is just what ithe baby deserves, not all people are ready to commit to that. So isn't it better to have people that love each other and feel like they're ready for to bring that kid up properly and take responsibility for it, have a baby and support it through the rights and wrongs of the world, instead of having a woman that in reality was raped/never wanted a baby/isn't ready for it/possibly has no boyfriend or husband/isn't cut out to be a mother/ take care of that baby she never really wanted. Instead, she's forced to, and maybe doesn't even love the kid and place it in a foster home or orphanage. Or maybe they both end up on the street. Really, that is not always a good way to live, wouldn't it be better to have the abortion?

Women that get raped and doesn't get babies out of love, how do those kids feel? "My father is a rapist and I live alone with my mother in a trailer park, sometimes she hit me and I don't think she really loves me" isn't exactly the best way of life. Everytime the mother look at that kid she's going to remember why that kid is alive, and maybe that kid isn't doing so well.


Personally, I think abortion is sad, however if it's between abortion and bringing someone into a life that's miserable from the very beginning, I prefer abortion. We can all 'console' ourselves with the fact that the heart isn't developed until 2-3 weeks into pregnancy (I'm not trying to be a cynic here, it just might be a bit easier accepting before the heart is made, which we humans look upon as a very important thing). Abortion can be right and wrong in many different situations, but one has got to think of the consequences.

 

Something needs to be alive in order for it to be killed. So no, it's not murder.