Birth by Sleep A Terra Identity !Theory! *exploddles*

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by lonbilly, May 22, 2008.

  1. lonbilly Merlin's Housekeeper

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    It's not complete yet, for I know it still is going to need alot more, especially when BBS comes out, but here it is:

    Terra's identity-

    Well, obviously, his name is Terra, and he has the power to use a uuber sized keyblade, but who and what is he really? Something I believe, and alot of proof has come already, when the game hasn't even been released yet, on who he could possibly be.

    Xehanort?

    Many people believe in this theory, and it's quite possible. There are many similarties between the two. For one, it seems that at the end of the KH2:FM+ Secret Ending, Terra's eyes turn yellow. Now, it is true there are a few other characters with yellow eyes, but there's more to that between these two characters. They have facial features as well that resemble eachother, but so does Zack & Terra compared as well. But if Terra is Xehanort, what could have caused him to turn? Master Xehanort is possible, while Maleficent is also a possible one. The reason I believe Maleficent may have been a cause, is a special scene betwen the two, and Terra is smiling. But what exactly could have made him join that side? What could the one who pushed him there toild him to make him turn?

    Something else that could possibly support, is that Xehanort's Heartless took the name Ansem, just as if Terra went evil, he took the name Xehanort from MX. But the reason he took this name? When Ansem The Wise found Xehanort, he remebered nothing but his name. Now, he may have remebered not his name, but a name from within the past. Then, when he conducted the experiments with the hearts, he wrote reports under the name Ansem, taking yet another name. Then, so did his Heartless, and his Nobody took the name Xemnas, which is Ansem with an X.

    Then, there is a special scene between Xemnas, and a suit of armor. He says the word 'friend' to it, and it's clearly Aqua's armor. This is most likely after something happend to Aqua. But that is another discussion for another time.

    But if Terra=Xehanort, why can his Nobody and Heartless never use the keyblade? One needs a strong heart to wield the key, and since he had to lose his heart to make these creatures, he could no longer use it.

    Then, a certain thing that could kill the theory is Terra in the secret KH2:FM+ fight. How could he possibly still be around if his Nobody is? Sora was still around when Roxas was, so perhaps when they defeated Xehanort's Heartless, Kingdom Hearts may have rejoined him with his heart, recreating Terra. Or, it could be that the Terra you fight, is just a memory of him stuck there in the wasteland. Or, he may have lost his memory completely of ever being Xehanort, since he shouts his hate for Xehanort, which is very possible to be referring to MX, and he also says Ven & Aqua, so he may believe they are dead already, or gone.
     
  2. Maka Albarn It's called love

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    Wow... you did a lot of thinking on this subject. It could be highly possible, but then again maybe not. At least the thrid game is coming out soon so we'll know everything! :D
     
  3. Zeftnon - The Superior Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I personally like the "Terra=Xehanort" theory, and there is a lot of proof. A few of yours have some flaws:

    I don't think he actually switched sides. Ansem said that Xehanort lost all his memories except for the name "Xehanort". His motive for the experiments might have come from Master Xehanort; yes, this is another theory - Master Xehanort himself might have been a scientist who had plans similar to Xehanort in KH2. If something happened that fused him and Terra together, we could say that what was created was MX with Terra's physical features (except for the silver hair). Something close to that.

    Remember, Xemnas only remembered anger and hate, and Terra says many times that his hatred for Xehanort filled him. So when Terra loses his memories, he might have still remembered that anger, but for some reason, only his Nobody was able to display it.

    Well, how about Roxas? I think the case here is either when Terra and MX "fused", he lost his ability to wield the Keyblade, or as MX says, "Those who submit to the darkness are not qualified to wield the Keyblade," so that could explain this.

    Nomura has confirmed that the battle with Terra is non-canon, that is, it has nothing to do with the story. Nomura never actually wanted to put that fight in, but a developer insisted. Anyway, that Terra is called "The Lingering Spirit", so that might not even be Terra in the flesh. Here's my theory for it: Fresh "New Enemy" Theory
     
  4. lonbilly Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah, I just learned that the battle was non-canon, and for the whole losing heart thing, is thought that Roxas has his own heart, which could be possible, but also, no darkness can wield the keyblade, so i'm thinking MX may not be evil after all, but yeah, I don't think it's completely right, there maybe somethings that could be true, but it's just a theory, and most are never always 100% right......(>W<)
     
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    I am not sure whether Xehanort is Terra or if he's the apprentice of Master Xehanort. I believe he could be either one.

    Xehanort, before becoming a Heartless, did open the door to Radiant Gardens' Heart. He also is responsible for sending Kairi out believing she will find the intended Keyblade wielder, who he wanted to find to use or to get rid of. In the Ansem Reports (the ones in KH) he seems to find out these things from overhearing Ansem the Wise and King Mickey. However, the door there, he opens when he follows a Heartless (which he had brought there) to the door. Riku also opens the door on Destiny Islands, which shows the Keyblade wielders may have that ability even without a Keyblade. (Originally keeping in mind Riku was the intended Keyblader). So, it is very likely that Xehanort was a Keyblade wielder, which prompts people to think it could be Terra. The apprentice in the funky Rikuesque armor also had a Keyblade. So, it could be him.

    Going with though, if it's Terra...when Xehanort gives himself to Darkness, he would lose all bonds with the Keyblade. Since he apparently did not know himself if he was one or not, and his memories were very unclear, he probably gained memories after his two components separated. So there's Ansem (the Heartless Xehanort) who studies Darkness and could not come to the physical realm fully until he could take over Riku's form...and we have Xemnas, who being created off of memories and Darkness, may have actually acquired some memories back. Xigbar, who apparently does have some past with Keyblade wielders etc, may have also filled in Xemnas. Xemnas though, unlike Roxas who is obviously at least a portion of Ven, is a Nobody that has a tremendous amount of power, but otherwise was unremarkable. So, unlike Roxas, who had ties to Sora and could get a Keyblade, Xemnas doesn't. After all, his whole self gave in to Darkness and not for wholesome reasons, as Sora did.

    As for Terra in KH2:FM..if he is a part of the actual game intended and not just a fill in thing, I would almost wager that it was his Soul perhaps, but I'm not sure. I think until we see BBS, we aren't going to get why the Enigmatic Soldier was there, but if Nomura just put it in there for a challenge, it may make it non-Canon or explained sometime in KH3. I have a few ideas on what happened with Terra in the past as well as the apprentice but it's all guess work. Your analysis though is very good.
     
  6. Erkz Kingdom Keeper

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    Xehanort = No Earth + X

    :P He can't be Terra. *shot multiple times.*
     
  7. lonbilly Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Xehanort can also be scrambled to be No Heart + X, so just because one thing scrambled around makes that, doesn't mean that it's right, for if Xehanort had no heart, how could Ansem(Xehanort's Heartless) and Xemnas been created?
     
  8. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    I considered this. I think its a possibility...however, I believe that the dark apprentice is the xehanort we all know and love, and not Terra.
    Xehanort has a tendency to steal other peoples' names doesnt he? After all, he took on the name Ansem after Ansem the Wise's name. This would make sense since baldy's name is "Master Xehanort."
    I think Terra dies...well, actually, I think they all die. To be a lingering spirit means to be a poltergeist, which is a type of ghost that haunts an area because it has unfinished business...
     
  9. genericKHfan Moogle Assistant

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    for all we know the reason his eyes turned yellow was him letting the darkness take over in hopes of making himself stronger to destory MX like riku did with roxas

    or it may even be something as stupid as the reflection of kingdom hearts
    even the power of kingdom hearts as well but im guessing it may be the heartless one terra letting darkness surface which may give a reason to hate MX because he made him turn to it etc
     
  10. Noise For Love and Justice

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    but i dont think that Xehanort and Terra are THAT close...i think there just "friends" and that word is uses sparingly
     
  11. Shiki my waifu is better than yours, thanks

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    Yes, he uses that word sparingly to whomever is that shadow in the screenshot. I still want to wonder WHO it is though....