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  1. TwilightDragons
    Dragons: Let’s start with the basics of Nobodies.
    When a person gives into The Darkness in their hearts, their heart becomes a Heartless and their body becomes a Nobody.
    A Nobody, the body of a person that fell into The Darkness, has many characteristics that separate them from Heartless.
    The basic facts of… Nobodies:
    Nobodies have coherent trains of thought.
    Nobodies plan, acting towards a greater goal.
    Nobodies do not have hearts.
    Nobodies have memories; of emotions and who they were before they entered the darkness.
    The basic facts of… Heartless:
    Heartless do not have coherent trains of thought.
    Heartless cannot plan; they act on instinct alone.
    Heartless are hearts that have been swallowed by The Darkness.
    Heartless do not have memories; said memories are lost almost immediately after becoming a Heartless.

    When a person gives into The Darkness, their body and heart separate physically, but are still connected by a thread.
    The heart, becoming a Heartless, is an incarnate of The Darkness itself. The Heartless gets, is, the heart.
    Now, the body, the No-body, is a shadow of the person. The Nobody gets the memories.

    An average person’s body disintegrates quickly after being swallowed by The Darkness, but someone just above average, some-body with a stronger heart, their body doesn’t fade as fast. It isn’t them, but it has as solid (or almost solid) mass; a dusk, or one of the other lesser- Nobodies. Having lost their human appearances, this person/Nobody has little to no connection with their heart at all.
    The body of an exceptionally strong-hearted person, in The Darkness, would not corrode or wouldn’t corrode much; thus they would remain with features similar to their original. These beings, these greater- Nobodies, haven’t been as corroded by The Darkness as much as, say the dusks. The greater- Nobodies, Organization XIII, have stronger ties to their hearts; thus having the memories of who they originally were.


    Except… For Roxas.
    Roxas’s existence is entirely confusing.
    (And don’t even get me started on Namine…)
    He does not have the memories of Sora, because Sora wasn’t in the darkness long enough to lose all of them. He doesn’t remember much/anything.
    (After Kairi brought Sora back from The Darkness, he told her about how he began to forget everything, even who he was.)
    Yet he stands out, among the Nobodies, for being the most emotional.
    Roxas came into existence when Sora released Kairi’s heart from inside of him with Soul Eater. (Please note that Sora’s heart was a Heartless up to this point.)
    Sora’s body faded (fell into The Darkness), and Roxas was born.
    While Sora was falling through The Darkness, Roxas was gaining Sora’s memories. Before Roxas could gain more than a sliver of Sora, Kairi knowingly gave her heart to Sora, thus creating Namine.

    This should have created a Heartless, right?
    Wrong.
    Being one of the Princesses of Heart, Kairi doesn’t have any of The Darkness inside of her, she never could have a heartless, which are The Darkness inside of people’s hearts.
    But what did that make Namine? Was she only half of a Nobody?
    Basically… Yeah.
    She didn’t have any Memories, because they remained with Kairi. And Kairi’s heart remained in Sora until the begging of KH2, when he was finally reunited with Roxas.
    (If you’re now asking, “Then how come Kairi was unconscious during KH1?†I
    tell you, “I don’t know.†Call it a plot-hole. Make up a reason. Maybe Kairi wasn’t strong enough then. Maybe Kairi hadn’t consciously taken control of her ‘powers’. Maybe she had a stronger connection afterwards. Maybe she split her heart in two, that way Sora could have half. That makes some sense… Hmmm.)

    We know how Nobodies exist.
    (Now I know that Nobodies aren’t supposed to exist, but they do exist. The go around kidnapping, killing, and making more Nobodies/Heartless. That’s a lot of ‘not existing’ that they’re doing.)
    But how do Nobodies like Roxas and Namine exist?
    The answer to that question is a simple one; it’s almost laughable how simple it is. I bet that my 9-year-old sister could tell you.

    So how do Roxas & Namine, all Nobodies for that matter, exist?

    Simple.
    We don’t know.
    Frustrating, isn’t it?
    But honestly. It’s like trying to find the meaning of life.
    You can look forever, but you will never, and I mean never, find the right answer.
    And then there’s the fact that maybe there isn’t a right answer, maybe it’s just a large plot-hole that was left to raise the publicity.

    I understand if you can’t accept my answer to the mystery of The Darkness, The Heartless, and The Nobodies.
    It’s taken me a while to accept that I’m not going to find the answer, but at least I realized that. Of course, I’ll continue to debate and read other’s ideas; but I’ll remember that, no matter how confident they sound, they don’t know either.

    Twilight: *Not Availiable*
    Thread by: TwilightDragons, Jan 15, 2008, 13 replies, in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  2. TwilightDragons
    Dragons: It depends. Roxas and Axel had emotions, that’s obvious. But does that mean they had hearts?
    When Riku had just defeated Roxas, DiZ comes out a portal and says, “…. If Roxas were to meet Sora, maybe it would be different.â€
    Okay, I can’t remember the whole line, but I caught the drift. DiZ basically meant that Roxas doesn’t have a heart, but if he met Sora, he might have a heart of his own.
    Roxas was slowly pulling his heart together. What if that affected Axel as well?
    “It’s not the heart that creates the feeling of love, but the love itself in which creates the heart.â€
    Axel loved Roxas. Not as ‘couple’ love, but brotherly love. (The same love between Sora & Riku) Could that love have created a heart all his own?

    Twilight: I believe Axel, when he met Roxas, slowly acquired the feelings to create the heart. Thus he wanted his best friend to stay. The slowly growing heart was giving him strength.
    Thread by: TwilightDragons, Dec 29, 2007, 29 replies, in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  3. TwilightDragons
    Dragons: From what I’ve heard. Ven, Terra, and Aqua are three of the four Chasers, or Keyblade Smiths. Yeah. They are the creators of the keyblades.
    Four Chasers.
    Two fell into darkness.
    One returned to the light.
    I bet Terra was the one that ‘returned to the light’. He reminds me of Riku. The strong, deep type who cares for his friends.
    Ven, of course, looks exactly like Roxas. Coincidence? I think not. There’s no such thing as coincidences in video games. There’s a reason for Ven’s appearance. Of course… That may just be Disney and Square Enix screwing with our heads. Helps with the publicity.
    Aqua… Strong and caring. Plus she likes Ven.
    I believe that Xehonort was the other one that fell into darkness. But then explain the words “Xehonort’s memories…†that flash by.

    Twilight: No comment
    Thread by: TwilightDragons, Dec 29, 2007, 26 replies, in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  4. TwilightDragons
    Dragons: The latest question is, “Who is this Ven person that looks exactly like Roxas?†We have no clue, but we can guess.
    I think Ven, Terra, and Aqua are the past lives of Sora, Riku, & Kairi.
    Supporting facts- In the trailer, I saw Ven shove Ven out of the way and continue charging Mr. Evil (don’t know who he is). Ven immediately go back up and followed, only to charge in like an idiot and get frozen. Reminds me of Sora. And when Ven fell, Aqua was there holding him. Kairi? And while Aqua was with Ven, Terra was still fighting. Riku?
    I know that Ven, Terra, & Aqua aren’t Sora, Riku, and Kairi; but there’s a reason that Ven looks, sounds, and acts like Roxas. He’s connected to Sora in an unknown way.
    Also, King Mickey. He has two keyblades, and a new outfit implies the future. (Or does it?)
    But if you notice all the little words that float around the screen, “Xehonort’s memories…†pops to our attention. So this implies the past, for Xehonort is now dead.

    There’s this poem I found….

    Have you ever felt like you knew someone a long long time ago.
    Another place, another time, a friendship of the soul? Two people who share a bond for reasons neither know?
    A feeling that they were friends a long, long time ago?
    Somehow they are drawn together, fate has brought them back.
    Each living worlds apart, they journey separate paths.
    When this life is over and another begins.
    Their souls will pull each other, two souls that we call friends.

    It was pasted over a picture of Kairi, I didn’t understand why. You decide.

    Tiwlight: I agree with Dragons.
    Thread by: TwilightDragons, Dec 29, 2007, 8 replies, in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX
  5. TwilightDragons
    Dragons: Okay. Quick flashback here. KH1 starts, you're playing as this puppy eyed boy that appears to be about 11, he could be 12 at a streach. Game ends, blah blah.
    Now we start KH2. The graphics are better... And Sora's out grown his cloths! At least a foot taller. By the time Sora gets his new clothes, he looks and acts like a 15-year-old.
    Woah, time warp!
    I haven't played CoM, Re: CoM, or Final Mix yet, so I'm missing the details... But 3-4 years?!
    I've guessed that KH1 was one year, CoM another year, plus being out for a year.
    And this is all guess work. So have I missed something? If anyone knows, and I mean knows, the factual ages of Sora, Riku, and Kairi, please tell me!

    Twilight: I think and have read that Sora (in Kh1) is 13 years old, and then (in Kh2) he is 15. Am I correct? Riku is one year older and Kairi is the same age as Sora. Correct?
    Thread by: TwilightDragons, Dec 29, 2007, 13 replies, in forum: Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX