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@Rafael: I didn't say that I wouldn't like you anymore if I found out that you were a Satanist. I just said it would make me lose respect for you. Also, let me take a moment to say this. You're my friend, I know we fought before and I said some pretty bad things to you but that was because I just didn't understand. I understand now that the reason why you were trolling me awhile back was just because you were mad at me for that stuff I said about committing suicide and giving up and all that. But I'm letting bygones be bygones now and trying to forget about that and I hope you will do the same.

I've not heard of any committing murder so far no. But I did hear about one who raped a mother and then sodomized her 8 year old son.

EDIT: Well since they sometimes use virgins as a sacrifice for some of their rituals that technically counts as murder.

I'm not even going to comment on this.

Yes but there is hope for anyone who will accept Jesus as their Savior. I'm just well...messed up for a Christian as I said before. There are still some things that I need to work on and get help with. By saying this you're implying that God will not forgive anybody who has sinned which is not true.

This is completely wrong. So wrong that it's almost hilarious.

Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I can't enjoy pop-culture. Yugioh is just something to do for fun and activity.

Yes I know we wouldn't have seen Goku turn Super Saiyan if that happened I was just saying if Krillin had done that that would've solved things. And I'm pretty sure it was powerful enough considering it cut off his tail.

I guess the movies and Justice League cartoon etc. don't go exactly according to the comics.

Oh so you're an atheist now?

It's just...I'm a Christian. And Satanists stand for everything that I'm against...

Didn't see this till now. Touche...Those are all some really good points...

EDIT: Honestly though there are things in both the DBZ universe and the DC Comics universe that don't add up. For example it was said that the Saiyans could not breathe in space. But if that's really true then how was Bardock able to confront Frieza in the depths of space while being completely unfazed by the vaccum? And why didn't Krillin just use his Destructo Disk to kill Frieza when he had the chance? He could've done that in the time it took him to change into his Final Form...And if Superman is really invincible and this god that everyone makes him out to be then why is he so easily hurt by other people who have Superhuman strength? I once heard about The Hulk beating Superman in one crossover comic. And why does once source say Superman can lift a maximum of 100 tons when other sources say otherwise?

Okay, Before I say anything else:

WTF? Isn't it obvious?

For example let's say Doomsday fought Perfect Cell. Doomsday was killed merely by being slammed into the Earth. So basically even if all else failed all Cell would have to do is self-destruct and then regenerate and kick Doomsday's weakened ass. (Though really I don't think Doomsday would even survive the explosion) And let's say Darkseid fought Majin Buu. He was nearly impossible to kill. He would always still live even if one single molecule of him was still intact pretty much sorta similar to Cell. He could pretty much just blow Darkseid away with his kind of power. I mean just one palm planet burst attack and then boom, no more Darkseid. And that's also why I think Frieza could take Doomsday or Darkseid as well. He was shown capable of destroying entire planets just with one finger.

When did Superman ever survive an entire planet exploding by his own power? I mean that was how his race was wiped out...I would say it's truly debatable now whether or not Superman is more powerful than Goku. Superman was shown capable of withstanding even the heat of the sun. Which theoretically implies that he could withstand the ultimate attacks of Frieza and Cooler. Goku was not able to do that until after reaching Super Saiyan 4. (withstand the heat of the sun I mean)

However another thing to consider is Superman is called the man of steel. But Goku can easily break metals far harder than steel. While Goku may not be as durable as Superman I'd say he has him bested in terms of sheer brute strength. Doomsday was able to punch Superman hard enough to make him bleed. But villains like Perfect Cell and Majin Buu are clearly more powerful. From what I've seen Goku could punch a hole through Superman or tear one of his limbs off easily. I think even SSJ2 Goku could kick his ass. He wouldn't even need SSJ4. I think his best Kamehameha could do Superman in.

Also found this lol:
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I never said he was weak against magic. I only meant vulnerable. But Captain Marvel/Shazam was able to nearly kill Superman with just his magic lightning in one comic.

I love both Goku and Superman. But Superman has never faced any villain who even came close to the villains Goku has faced in terms of power. And he got his ass kicked pretty bad by both Darkseid and Doomsday before he finally beat them. Both of which pale in comparison to even Frieza in terms of power. I'd like to see Superman try to beat somebody like Perfect Cell or Majin Buu. I just don't see him being stronger than Goku...

I'm sorry to say this but...Rafael if you truly are a Satanist that makes me lose alot of respect for you...

You a Satanist Rafael?

No I didn't watch the video. And huh? What did I quote that he said?

EDIT: Oh yeah I see now. He beat me to it.

You haven't seen much of DBZ/GT have you? Goku wouldn't do that either. SSJ Goku's heart is full of rage, but not evil. In the movie Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13 Goku gathers the energy for a Spirit Bomb. Normally this would only be possible in base form because the Super Saiyan transformation is inherently malicious and taints the heart and soul. And only someone pure of heart can use the Spirit Bomb technique. However in this movie, Goku manages to channel the Spirit Bomb energy directly into himself while he is in his Super Saiyan form, supercharging his power, giving him a Spirit Bomb-sized solar aura, and filling him with a straining fury. Despite not being able to form one as a Super Sayan, Goku is apparently capable of using it in this form since he turned into a Super Saiyan when he destroyed Kid Buu with the Super Spirit Bomb, after already forming it and firing it.

I heard Superman peaks his lifts around 100 tons. 100 tons = 100,000 kg = 220,462,262 lbs. Now that I think about it an Average Person can lift 40% of their weight. An Average Person weighs 80kg. 40% of that is 32kg. 100,000/32 = 3,125, meaning Superman can lift 3,125 times the average man. And remember when Raditz scanned a human and his power level was a 5? So theoretically Superman's Power Level should be 3125 x 5, which is 15,625. Goku, when training with King Kai, reached a Power Level of 16,000 using Kaioken x2 When using Kaioken x3 his Power Level reached 24,000 and then with Kaioken x4 It was in the 30,000s.[DOUBLEPOST=1357931691][/DOUBLEPOST]

Same here man.

Why do people even compare Hulk and the Jonas Bothers and Wolverine with Hanna Montana? I completely fail to see what kind of connection people find between them...Where did they get those ideas? It at least makes sense to compare Goku and Superman cuz they're both similar.

Yeah that's why I said about as silly.

I don't think Goku would even need to go Super Saiyan 4 to beat Superman really. I've seen what he's capable of in forms below that. I think even regular Super Saiyan Goku would kick his ass.

Somebody actually compared Harry Potter and Optimus Prime? That's about as silly as those Hulk VS Jonas Brothers and Wolverine VS Hanna Montana comparisons I once saw...