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Persia tried to destroy Athens. Sparta nearly defeated them with a standing army of 300 superb fighters (what was their PROFESSION? - 300 (movie) lol). Sadly they got betrayed, the Persian army got directed around the mountain pass and they destroyed teh Athens. O_O

I think that's right. It's been a few years since I read about them/learned about them. I also know that the Persians had their very own solar messiah, too.

Yeah that's it. LOL

XDDDDDDDD Ahaha.

I shouldn't be laughing but still. They're kids. They're going to be susceptible to something like this, just like everyone is.

Too bad they went that far though. . . . genius'.

lol Them guys got soooome temper. xD

I think I heard about it too. Was on earlier tonight I think.

We at least she has the Triforce to protect her from Ganondorf. >D

....Angel. xD

What do you mean, DP? XD

Yeah I like this essay. Simple and to the point. =) *goes into debate mode for this topic* @_@

I very much agree with you. But this also depends on several other factors such as the individuals diet, are their fast or slow at metabolizing, etcetera? But I suppose in a very generalized sense, it will cause someone to gain a lot of weight if they have no other extra-curricular activities going on in their life. :)

Well technically, "video game addiction" is just a title for "you like games too ****ing much." XD Which is true. And unless you have a good sense of time and mental and physical health to a certain degree, it could affect it in a somewhat significant way. The parents, as the providers and care-takers by both law and moral reasons, should be the first to try and help the kid if it is really an issue. So in a way it is up to the parents. It's not an excuse ALL the time, but can be.

For instance, suppose parents DO try to stop the kid from playing way too much when it comes to video games, yet the kid neglects the attention and help and decides to play himself to death. This isn't an excuse, they really did try and help. It all does depend on situation.

And this is why when I tried to write a persuasive essay on this subject, it turned out being more informational because I just couldn't make up my damn mind. lol XD

Very interesting point. =)

Damn. I hope that never happens to me. LOL This would definitely be a case that would also agree, surprisingly, with the whole "parents aren't a role at all." Assuming the parents are neglectful or on a spring vacation at this point, there should be no reason to just leave the child sitting there if they know exactly what he is doing. o.O

Or maybe they aren't even aware, who knows. It really does depend on situation.

This is true. I very much agree with you. =)

And generally peaking, we could pretty much use ANYTHING as a drug or a dependent if we really want it to be. Just happens to be that video games are insanely addicting and widely popular; unlike cabbage. LOL

No. We created numbers TO live. To organize. We didn't need to create religion to organize. All it is doing is separating everything. Numbers don't separate anything; there is only one kind of number, right? Just a number.

Well, personally, I deny the very declaratory concept that there is such a thing as good versus evil. They are notions of opinion, and not an actuality. They are extremely complex and don't explain anything except a label. As you know, what is good to me probably isn't good to someone else. Thus defeating the concept that something can be "good." As I said, they are concepts and are completely intangible. Just like emotions.

You didn't answer my question. You failed to realize that numbers did not create us, we created numbers. Just like we, in a way, created religion.

God and numbers are both similar, in esoteric terms. But also different in use of explanation and complexity. True, yes?

Yes it does. This is why they are all the same: intangible, as you stated. They were created, essentially, out of thin air. Except God is being taken on a far more complex level than numbers, or emotions, because it explains a entire beginning.

Well I am always calm, and generally expect the same out of everyone else. And generally assume that unless I see obvious clues to some kind of emphasis or yelling (via caps or exclamation marks). So yes I can give the wrong vibe off. But this is a debate forum. It is assumed you are calm. If you assume someone is not calm even though they presented such you must not be in the right forum. lol

Has nothing to do with what you quoted from.

Their usernames. That should be specific enough, right? XD

Aha, but only immortal as long as we, the CREATORS of numbers, exist. This is assuming no other life form of intelligence out in the universe (if there is one) hasn't created something like it. Just like religion, only eternal until there is no longer a need for it. A belief, as you said. But not a theism.

You seem to keep voiding my comments and rebukes to your points. <_<

Numbers are an idea. ALL idea's are thus as you described, and can be considered theisms by what you are trying to explain. Making ALL idea's, intangible and all, some kind of theism. Last time I checked, my thoughts weren't a religion. <_<

Lol this is true. But most end of the world theories are based off of theology; if not all. :P

We just happened to branch on to a more specific subject from that. It happens all the time in debates in order to keep them fresh. :3

Numbers and letters haven't ALWAYS existed. Don't you understand? XD they are a production of sophistication. WE created them. Not worms. Worms don't operate based on a calender, do they? WE do. WE are the creators of all forms of time. No other species focus' on time except weather patterns. But they aren't the ones assuming it's because it's some hidden religion that is somehow taking over the world. xD

xD I txt tlk sometimes. But mainly with people I know that do the same. I feel stupid doing it, and it makes my friends look kinda stupid too. But hey it's all fun.

To those who say we are more superior: I don't believe that. At all. We as organisms are in no way superior to any other organism. Not even a virus. I agree that we are dangerous and the most sophisticated, but we are not superior. We just happen to have conscious thinking ability.

And I honestly don't find ourselves that dangerous (apart from our war and separation of people). Because we are organisms of nature, I think that everything we do is a product of our and other animals' nature. We release tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, but that is only because we need it to live; for factories to package food; to generate heat and electricity; and other things. Therefore, I don't think it's dangerous. Maybe to other animals, but on a large scale animals constantly kill each other. We kill members of our own species too, and of course, probably the only species that DOES kill its own because of conflict. And that is the only aspect I find dangerous: our own personal separation and/or division and contempt for one-another.

On a lighter picture, we have made many incredible advancements via technology, adaptation, creativity, etc. Though I only say that from our own personal standpoint, since of course I don't know what other life could be out in our universe. <:3

No drive orbs, also.

...****ing hate those things.

Yeah. I probably would too. I have yet to give any phone numbers out except to my friends. So I'm safe I guess. If you want to call it that. xD

lol well, do you see individuals praying to numbers and asking them for forgiveness?

Saying that numbers are just an idea is true. They are just an idea. A concept of configuration. But good and evil are just ideas too yet we continue to implicate every day in society that they are real, physical concepts. You're basically saying saying anything is a religion just because it "isn't tangible." But you have to realize, things can be represented as we interact with them and experience them. Numbers are not a religion. They are something to experiment with to explain phenomena, both in science and through the mathematical subjects.

Now, I really don't want to sound bashful here. But you say "you can't touch numbers," implying they don't exist just because they aren't physical, as we've established. But God isn't tangible, is he? Where is he? Why do you believe in something that is no different, abstractly speaking, than God?

Again, realize we use numbers, math, measurement, chemistry, experimentation, realization, and several other forms of intangible concepts to explain phenomena and occurrence.


Also, I'm not trying to flame you. I'm being very calm here, if you take the time to see it. I'm not using caps, big fonts/letters, and exclamation marks to express myself. I'm being logical, with evidence. And I have yet to see you use either of those two things thus far.

I also want to, again, call you out. Stop referring to members as "higher ups." It's separatist and I find it ridiculous.

I lol'd.

That must really suck.

There's a 0, correct. But theories were still made. Not everyone thinks like you, mate.

The clock has 12 on it because it is an ancient form of time that we still use today.

As for religious references to the number 12, 99% of them are references to the cross of the zodiac. Especially considering ancient texts REVOLVING around these astrological concepts.

Math is not a religion. If you deny math, you are basically denying basic fundamentals of logic. It is not a theism.

This is incredibly laughable. Not even a theory. No proof or anything. Math is a system of numbers to explain simple mathematical formula's, to figure out area's, volumes, simple things like that.

Sure, there were historically documented figures such as Pythagoras and his men who believed there were such thing as math deities, but that is not present today. It is used in science to figure out theories, concepts, and the like. And it is PROVABLE. Something your vocabulary lacks.

As DPWolf said, science=/=religion. Do more research. You claim to be a rebel but you are nothing of the sort. If you were a rebel you would research more, find the time to make a reciprocal of your "research" so that you don't sound like such a prejudice fool.


And I'm just going to assume you haven't come up with any tangible evidence to argue with my post that I used to start an intelligent argument sometime back. =/

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Anyway, not all ancient religions are gone. Judaism is still around. That's been around since before the common era. =) We create new religions, and thus we can shed the old ones that are no longer able to explain things as in depth.

And I think ancient religions ended because they become obsolete over time. We are constantly seeking truth, and different theisms are started to try and explain these things profoundly. And also, because our technology, via telescopes, satellites, and the like, has shown us the Earth and the universe from a broader perspective. We no longer need to just "look up at the sky" and make up a hypothesis about how everything started. In a way, theism and ancient religion (and religion in general) has become obsolete.

Absolutely not. That severe of a storm is absolutely impossible according to storms our planet is capable of. Plus, an ice age/flood like that is so unlikely. I could never imagine that being possible whatsoever. lol

Also, ice ages don't cause massive tsunami's. Just throwing that out there. <>

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