On a side note, I think it's funny that there's so much debate about a babies life being saved, but when it comes to the death penalty, they're all happy to shove them into a chair/firing squad/Stretcher for lethal injection. Please don't quote that or I will go hunt down an admin to close this thread. Anyway, this is going to be an argument for centuries. No one's going to change someone's Point of View on it. Nor is it going to be something that (hopefully) will become a decision in someone's life. If it does, no matter what side you're on, it's probably one of the hardest ones you'll make.
And yet many others don't go through foster care well. I did mention some do make it out okay. Should I mention all the times it hasn't worked? What about the many cases where overworked and underpaid social workers allow kids to grow up in a very screwed up system where people just are using it for the cash per kid? And labor is a lot different than abortion. You're talking about a fully grown fetus. Nine months old, at the point where it's like pushing a watermelon out of your nostril. That's how my mom described it herself in labor. At three months, it's a third of it's size and a lot easier physically on a woman. I note with amusement, you've resorted to name-calling and insults in your points while the rest have posted their points without such insults. That's every entertaining in my POV when you keep on acting as you tell us we're acting. And what, having the baby will stop all therapy? We're going to deny therapy and all other stuff because a woman decided to have an abortion? I think that's fair, and if she had to give birth, which can last for days, by the way. And painkillers are very limited during the process and the nurses in most hospitals don't tell you there's a window in which you can have them, she can end up with massive damage that will stop her from having a baby full-term. Later in life that could be raised in the best environment. And have to have tons of surgery because her body is so ripped up at a young age of having the child, that won't cost more.
Again, what the **** has that got to do with abortion? Dead horse, again. And second, the disability and what you call it is the same thing. Are you saying each and every thing should be classified? I have worked with people with autism and people with asbergers, people with down, people with all sorts of disabilities when doing therapeutic riding. Low functioning can be classified as you so insultingly put it. And you value life of a NON-LIVING fetus over a living, breathing being who has been forced pregnant at the age of 12 because that baby could live? What about the living breathing being that is forced to give birth to said such child? Are you saying that a fetus is more significant than someone who has already made a mark in life? Or what about after the birth, the child going through years of therapy, years of surgery, dropping school, and doing god-knows what with her life because of the fetus? Is that fair to anyone involved? It's more likely that both, IF they live, will end up with a very hard life due to something that they couldn't control during it.
Firstly, I'm getting offended by your vocabulary. Spirit, being a person with autism and not liking "mentally ******ed" being used. Noted, Misty told me just now you have Asbergers, so do I and I STILL don't like your wording. Secondly, what the ****... Sorry Mist, has that got to do with abortion? It could be anyone, not a person with a disability. A lot better vocabulary, by the way. Or a person who could be a "genius" could be the person with the disability. Yes, there is people who have high or low functioning autism and other high/low functioning disabilities, that doesn't make them stupid. Also, we're not talking about a living, breathing being, we're talking about a fetus. Something that is unknown on what it's going to be. When it concerns the parent, or it happens through circumstances that they can't control, as I stated before, you have the right to decide to do something about it before it is born. Abortion is a moral and legal right thing to do. You're just beating a dead horse and trying to insult everyone involved now, not including dancing like a shaman around the topic because you don't even want to talk about the baby anymore. And frankly, it's pissing me off.
Going with the above post by American Sephiroth. A 12 year old, IF she even survives it, gets massive damage done to her body during the labor. In Africa, cases like this are sadly common. And it will cause her body in danger of not only having anymore children, but also damage to the point where they will need extensive surgeries to get it healed. I agree with your points totally, by the way. Anyone under 18, especially around 16, should not go through labor at all. It's too young for a fetus, it's too young for a person who hasn't even reached full maturity herself.
A very rare book to find these days, made in the 1970's and never rewritten. But graphically accurate. A girl who is riding the family's Arabian stallion jumps over a fence while exercising him and the horse lands on broken glass, shredding his leg to pieces in the process. In desperation, she turns to the nearest farm to get them to help. A show stable who takes the horse in to heal, and the girl agrees with the owner to work at the stable until the Arabian is better to pay for the fees. This book is an eye-opener in many ways. I love riding and horses, and this book shook me to the core about what happens behind the scenes at many show riding stables. Granted, I've seen it a little myself at one stable where I rode at for about eight months before I left due to the cruelty of not only the riders, who were 12 at the time, but also done to the horses. The author, Jean Slaughter Doty spares no expense in diving into the immense industry of horse showing. It shows the goods and many evils of what happens to the horses and sometimes the children in this sport. Drugging, fraud, and at one point a child losing her pony because he would never win more than third place in the arena due to his looks is laced in the book. Interspersed with points about the bond of horses and their riders and the joys of winning. The book breaks your heart and at the same time lifts it. At some points, you wonder if there's no hope left in the show arena and then you see something where you wonder if there's hope after all. It's a must-read for any fan of horses, and a must-read for any parent who has their child involved in horse back riding. If you find it, it's a treasure for anyone to read.
I, like so many others, fell to the tediousness of the game, too. I loved it in the beginning and quickly lost interest. I had a golden retriever, a husky and another. I taught my retriever a ton of tricks and agility, then lost interest completely and never played it again. I eventually resold it back to the store. God only knows what condition those pups were at that point. :(
Secretariat, not as good as Seabiscuit. But a great movie. Also have been watching Ghostbusters lately, another excellent film.
Do note for some of the non-race people. Some of the terms aren't explained. For Secretariat's accomplishments, they're dead on every way, they couldn't have done it better. For some of the smaller things, like his breeding especially, they don't cover as well. But they give enough so you don't need someone sitting next to you explaining whats happening or why it's significant. It's more like for me, something that's not too technical so if you're interested, you can read more about it later on. There is more to the story that isn't explained well in my Point of View, but its very minute details that for me as an avid horse fan who has read everything about Secretariat and the subject of horse racing would pick up compared to someone who is interested for other reasons. Just a note, it's still a must-see.
An old movie, but a fascinating true story. As Secretariat comes out, I go back to this film that isn't about a horse who dominated the Triple Crown and was a horse that was mostly unstoppable. This goes back to the depths of the Great Depression, when unemployment was at 20-30% and people had nothing to look to or look forward to. Seabiscuit was born I think in 1933, one of the deepest and darkest days of American history. He started racing in 1935. A horse, who at two years old, had an astounding and grueling 45 races where he only won fifteen of them. At the time, he caught the interest of a horse whisperer called "Silent Tom" a man who suffered for years in the old west when the new west was rapidly taking over. His employer, Charles Howard, was the opposite, a man who didn't introduce the automobile industry to the west, but fine-tuned it to make it a booming industry. A massive millionaire who had everything going for him except his son's death, a massive hole in his heart that haunts him through the rest of his life. When Tom and Howard get Seabiscuit, Tom sees something no one else has. And rapidly over time, people start to see it, too. If nothing else, they see exactly what they're going through in this horse. Watching a beat-up wreck of a horse rise from infamy to challenge the best horse of that time. From a book called the same title of the movie, Lauren Hillenbrand's book comes from the pages to show what the era was like. Not only for the horse, but for the trainer, owner and jockey also. It describes in detail what life is like for each individual without hammering it home to the point where you don't want to hear it anymore. The story of tragedy to triumph to tragedy again is amazing. I won't say what happens with the horse and jockey after the last tragedy, it's something to watch with your own eyes. The clothing and commentary is accurate and even in one case, they use the actual commentary from one of the races heard by millions of people over the radio. It's a great movie, and I recommend it to anyone.
Having recently gone back to watch 9/11, and the heroics of the firefighters during that day. If this is completely true, I'm appalled, I'm sure there's more to the story than what the press is saying. I know a lot of towns are having financial problems. My town couldn't afford salt and plowing last winter on the roads for half of the season. I live in Maine, so it's a complete necessity instead of a want. Yes, they should have helped the people involved, I'm not defending their actions. But I'd like to hear more about this story before I completely jump to conclusions. Also, another note, the owners could be playing this up, just a thought. People today sometimes play the press to get money and/or a new house. Take balloon boy last year or two years ago whose parents used the press to try and get their own reality show. It almost worked, too. If the kid didn't say anything while on live tv. Just a thought.
Thank you for your support, tummer. I greatly appreciate it and thank everyone for their replies. It was strained at work this week at the least,...
I'm a strong anti-religious person. I believe in god, I don't believe in religion. I do believe in abortion for many reasons. I do warn you, I'm going to be blunt, Misty... If I'm too blunt, you can edit it or tell me to. One, the adoption process is really screwed up. Google me if you don't believe me. I didn't grow up in the foster care system, and I know there's some success stories. But I have heard massive other stories that tell of kids who end up as drug addicts, dropouts, and/or other stuff. Again, I'm not saying that it's everyone, but its a common enough thing. Not including what happens to those kids in most foster family situations. If anything of the last several years has shown. Two, the kids who are born in some situations face drug addicts and other family situations that no one should ever grow up under. Most parents don't want to give up the kids after going through the pain of labor. It's partly because of the hormones the process gives off after wards. One of my cousins is adopted from birth and the mother, an underage girl who was sleeping with a 30 year old man nearly dragged my aunt to court to get the custody of the kid. Third, I believe that if it was not under the control of the mother. She should have full right to get an abortion. That doesn't mean an affair, but other circumstances that she cannot control. That doesn't include the father. If the father did something to the above woman that stripped away her rights during those moments, he should have none at all. Fourth, and I know this will bring up a lot of controversy. No kid under 18 should have a kid unless it's given up for adoption or aborted. So many dropouts are due to pregnancy and having a child. This brings up even more of a slew of problems not only for the child, but for the parent also and causes an already vicious cycle to continue a lot worse. Fifth, there should be no limit on time that the abortion should happen. Yes, I said it, I'm used to flaming, go ahead. Many reasons, one, doctor's are now making excuses to prolong the wait for an abortion to happen past the three month first stage so parents have to wait full term. This brings up several problems, including self-abortion which can not only kill the fetus, but can kill the parent as well if not treated. And going back to my fourth point, kids under eighteen will deny being pregnant. It's sad, but it's true. Even if they get tested for pregnancy, they will in some cases deny the first three months or try to hide it. They're in a part of life where their hormones are controlling their thoughts a lot of the time and they don't know how to act with such an event like this in their lives. Finally, *bows apology to Misty for next point* there should be a limit of abortions. Yes, I know that this procedure is used as a birth control. Mostly used for people who are prostitutes. After a certain point, the woman should be made so she just can't have kids anymore. It sounds cruel, but it stops the amount of money being poured into the system for all these abortions and also abortions can be massively traumatic for the mothers involved. If a woman is getting pregnant every six months or so and is running to the clinic, it's a lot healthier for her to just have the procedure done. Those are my points. Apologies if I offended someone with them. Misty, you are welcome to edit if you think I went too far with said post. On a final note, due to a birth defect, I'm not allowed to have children. And I hope I do never get into a position to have to have an abortion because something happened. I would have it done, though. I asked for the procedure done to make sure I couldn't have kids recently and was refused because they thought I was still too young to have it done and it's permanent to the point where I can't change my mind, despite having a baby would most likely kill me. Words can't describe how upsetting and/or frustrating it is for me personally to be rejected from something like that, leaving a procedure that's not only controversial, but illegal in at least a few states. Luckily, it hasn't become in mine. My support of abortion is many levels, and I will always support it.
Just a note, Sesame Street I'm pretty sure picked the outfit. I think I heard it in an interview a few days after they pulled it. They mentioned they got an evening gown they thought was appropriate for her to do the bit in. It is interesting to listen to all these comments. I thought since no one posted it, no one was interested. Apparently no one heard it instead. :) Anyway, yeah, I never heard Katy Perry, and reading her lyrics now, I have to agree on it being inappropriate.
I haven't seen a post for this, and it's kind of old. But I'm curious about what people think about this. Katyie Perry sings "Hot and Cold" with Elmo on the show and a lot of parents throw a fit about what Katie Perry wore during the taping. Myself, I thought 1-5 year olds, the target audience for the show, would have no idea what they're looking at and it's not a big deal. For countries who don't know, there's a few who don't get the show. It's a kids show from 1-5 teaching kids counting, alphabet, manners and other such things. It's been around 41 years, and has been a massive part of my life while at that tender age. Eventually they removed the song, but it's on Youtube for anyone who's curious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A__YxbkbmAg Thoughts?
We only have about 15 people in the office. And politics run very high in the office, I think I know who's actually taking the candy and popcorn, one of my co-workers who always has that candy at her desk and is eating that popcorn, too. But even if I had proof, she's one of the bosses favorites. And as far as I know, it got passed through the grapevine and she over heard it. Though I do agree with you, Evil. She might've had someone tell her I was taking it. But yeah, I'll talk to her Monday. I was so agitated when she accused me, I wasn't even thinking straight. Thanks, Evil. Anyone else with advice, please let me know. One other thing, my boyfriend has been really ill for two years. And I haven't heard from him for six months. I e-mailed him, and have gotten absolutely no reply yet from him or his family who he promised would let me know if anything happened. I don't even know what to think and added to the other strain going on in my life... It's just beyond words how I feel.
Apologies to staff if there's already a thread. I haven't seen one, and yes, this is a Disney movie. I know it's next week, but I saw a preview of it tonight. I was impressed. I haven't seen a movie on the big screen in ages. I haven't honestly been impressed by any movies coming out and the ones I seem to keep an eye out for have gotten some of the worst reviews I've ever seen. *coughs*LastAibender*coughs* It wasn't as good as Seabiscuit. I didn't expect it to be, that movie was something that could bring in any audience who was looking for a good human interest story that will make you cry and cheer all in one moment. If you haven't seen that by the way, you should if you like those movies. It was a little too "campy" for me about the family and the owner's struggles between her family and the farm. But the rest of it is excellently made to bring in a battle of a farm under massive debt back to glory days and a chestnut racehorse who could do it for them. And all the struggles the one horse has to bring not only the farm, but horse racing back to it's glory days of the triple crown. If you have seen Secretariat run live in the Triple Crown, I'm thrilled for you. Moments like that are a classic treasure that will never be forgotten most likely. People like me who were not even born at the time and either seen it on YouTube like me, or not even have seen it will see the first time the massive achievement this little red horse had accomplished against a rival horse who could have probably won any other year, and a female owner who competes in a male-dominated sport. Words can't describe the final scene and moments of the movie, and if you can tolerate the campiness that comes with it, it's a must see.
This Friday I was working at a law firm office I've been working for a year at. Some of the people don't like me there because I complained about one of the co-workers harassing me to the point where it was humiliating and causing me to be a nervous wreck, but it's been good for a long time after that. Well, some of them have been treating me even more rude than usual the last few weeks. I thought it was nothing until my boss confronted me saying that someone's been taking the stuff that I share my desk with. Candy and popcorn, and everyone apparently blames me. I completely panicked when she told me and insisted I didn't take it. I don't even like that candy. She then questioned me about taking the popcorn, which is microwavable and the candy, large bag is about 1-2 dollars, and the popcorn most three dollars for six bags. She then gave me this massive lecture about not taking stuff from other people. Words can't describe how upset I am that not only is it all over the office and believed, but even my own boss, who I like dearly and has been great. Believes them and is accusing me of stealing them. We work with all high-security stuff, date of births, social security numbers, stuff like that. It's killing me. I need this job badly. I can only earn 200 a week due to my health care and am suffering from minor level skin cancer, and this job lands everything perfectly. It also has given me a massive amount of experience for another job later on. My mom is barely getting enough lately as it is and my dad doesn't give us anything. When I started home, I had a massive panic attack and had to sit down and calm down for several minutes before I could continue. I honestly don't know what to do.
I'm thrilled, my state just this year denied gay marriage through a people's vote statewide. I was horrendously upset when we lost. I do think they should have the same rights as every other person. It's not fair, otherwise. Do be warned, though... This is going to go to a higher court. They anti-gay marriage coalition is already making waves to do so. What's going to happen now, who knows, but it's still a huge victory for them.
Hmm... Now that I think about it, I think I heard a few months ago from a friend of mine who's trying to get into the V/A industry that Anime's are having the same problem. They don't have enough money to afford the actors and other such things. It was especially a worry in the Video Game industry. I thought of it as a rumor, it probably is, still. But if Manga is having problems, probably later on the anime will, too. I'm about the same on anime as with manga. Though anime I'm more distant from due to all the fillers that come with it. I watch it on Youtube because of how expensive it is for people like me who don't have easy access to Bleach every week.
