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I'm with P on this one, i felt really silly arguing about apples for a second there.

Ever heard of adoption?

At P, okay then, my definition of human includes any fertilized egg with the potential to successfully survive in a female's womb by reasonable means.

Thanks , nice to know there's at least ONE reasonable person here >_> And yeah, I like that too. My personal favorite is this though ----------...

You have the absolute right to do whatever you want with your car and Toyota cannot sue you. What other people do has no relevance to this argument.

That doesn't apply here. Geohot released the hack knowing full well that someone COULD POTENTIALLY enable piracy, but he took precautions to stop people from doing it (which have succeeded, you cannot pirate with a geohacked ps3), and did not know for sure that it would happen.
It's the same thing when you sell a gun. No matter what, you KNOW that you MAY POTENTIALLY BE SELLING A MURDER WEAPON, but that's not your intended purpose in selling it and all you can do is take precautions like background checks to stop it from happening.

Okay, now obviously you didn't read what I said. IF you sign a contract when you buy apples, that's one thing. YOU DON'T SIGN A CONTRACT WHEN YOU BUY A PS3.

It's debatable whether or not geohot has a psn account, therefore he has one. Nice fallacy.

Name one law that he broke other than breach of contract. And no, you cannot download a cfw to allow piracy because geohot's keys do not provide enough access to create a full virtual filesystem. People have tried, it doesn't work. It would require more hardware hacking and finding the rest of the keys

Yes, I have a problem with that.

Except they're not. If someone passes a background check and meets all gun laws required by whatever state you're selling it in, you are not responsible in the slightest. By this logic Sony is at fault because they removed otherOS knowing full well that homebrew users would get pissed and something like this would eventually happen. They should sue themselves.

Except the apple company has NO RIGHT to tell you what you can and can't dip your apples in. That's the problem here. The moment they sell it to you, it is YOUR property. Now if you sign a legal document, that's different. This is not the case when you buy a PS3, although it is when you sign up for PSN (And like i said, it is Sony's right to ban people from PSN- they are completely justified in doing that). And furthermore if you never signed that document and you're encouraging other people to dip their apples in chocolate, you bear no responsibility.

The idea behind this isn't "oh he wanted to only do homebrew so it's fine". The idea is that geohot DID NOT BREAK ANY LAWS. Releasing the keys is not the breakage of law because they aren't copyrighted. His CFW isn't illegal either because you cannot pirate on it. This whole argument is stupid, the DMCA already ruled cell phone jailbreaking legal, this is literally not any different- except you actually can pirate games with jailbroken cellphones whereas you can't with geo-hacked PS3's.[/color]

At what point are embryos destroyed during IVF? I thought that was just the test tube baby process, where an egg is fertilized outside the body and then put in the womb

I think the definition of living is pretty much unanimous.

My definition of "Human being" is a fertilized egg residing in a female's womb, and anything beyond that stage. I believe this definition should be considered valid because in the very early stages of pregnancy, you can tell whether something is a human fetus or a giraffe fetus.

The premeditated act of ending a living human being's life.

Then my stance on any other sort of rape applies. It should be a choice.

I'm the same way with girls. I can talk to them really easy but when it comes to actually asking them for their number I'm awful. I met a girl today at a Yugioh tournament and she was TOTALLY into me and we were talking for a while but i could not ask her for her number even though i really wanted to.

No, I'm not sure. Absolute Zero Turbo is my own unofficial name for it, I've never really seen or heard of a build like it before. That's the best...

It really doesn't take much to establish that Wikipedia is not reliable at all. One time I saw the article on evolution. It was LOCKED, meaning no one could edit it, and the first sentence was
"In all circles of science, evolution is defined as a lie that stupid people believe in."

Abortion is murder, and therefore wrong.

In that case it should be a choice.

Yes.

No. Albert Einsteins parents were cousins.(not my reasoning, just a fun fact

No, Patrick, laziness is not an argument

Just got back from the tourney. Got 4th place out of 10 people, so it wasn't so bad. Won: Yubel (2-0) Hopeless Dragons (2-1) Absolute Zero Turbo...

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Also do not even try to make the argument that there's no point in CFWing a PSP. Honestly there is no reason to own one without CFW imo.

It isn't that I can't drink or gamble, I don't really care about that, it's just the crowning moment of awkward that comes with telling people I'm 16 because nobody seems to get it. It's better than when i was 14 and i looked super young and was getting double takes all the time, though.

for me it'll be Nintendo. Got my 3DS preordered. Can't wait.