Rules: For those of you who have not seen the show Deadliest Warrior: Its a way of comparing two warriors who have never met on the battle field, and comparing them against eachother in a fair and reasonable way and in turn figuring out who is the deadliest. I dont want this thread to boil down to "Well ______ is stronger than _____ because he's epic!" It would be more reasonable to list thier powers and abilities and limitations. Its good to point out your weaknesses in your oponents abilities. Also, source any material you post. For example, don't say, "_____ is imortal because he can't be killed!" but instead, "_____ is importal because on chapter xxxx of part xxxx he did this, and revealed he couldn't be killed. In this matchup, we compare Cloud Strife, the protaganist of Final Fantasy VII. A man twisted by memories Zack, who stood against Sephiroth in the final climatic battle. Wielding his buster sword, and Materia, he was able to overcome overwhelming odds. Standing in oposition against him we have Squall, the protagonist of Final Fantasy VIII. Silent and cold, serving as a mercinary, he eventually defeats Ultimecia and prevents her from destroying time itself. We will be comparing these two warriors in: Weaponry Magical Abilities Toughness Tactics and Strategies Limits (Seperate Category from Weaponry and Magic) Combat Consistancy (New category, want to see how it works) If anyone else things that something which would affect the outcome of the battle should be added to the list, please post so we can add it. Any canonical appearance by either of these characters can be added to the list. I'd be willing to say that Kingdom Hearts is not canon, but Dissidia is (Since its plot intertwines with FF1). But if you are willing to debate either please do. Now, aside from Dissidia, the universes they hail from have never crossed, but even then, there is no record of a result between these two fighting. So therefore, they have never met on the battle field. Now, WHO IS DEADLIEST!
True. In his defense, the message he sent me was an open ended ending. I just put Shepards ending. B( So we're doing Cloud vs Squal? I thought it was still open ended. x3 But ok, if you wish. Meanwhile, try to determine between Enoch, Amateratsu, and El Shoddai. BTW, I'm still looking for a taker to The Emperor to the Domain of Man (Warhammer 40k) in his prime. If you want to know what he's like, imagine Kratos, but imortal, thousands of years of battle experience, with the psychic powers of 1,000 psykers, and 40,000 years of technology. x3 EDIT: I posted Cloud Vs Squall http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.p...liest-Warrior-Episode-3&p=3477064#post3477064
I'd be a liar if I told you that I deserved any of the credit. I asked Peace and War how he'd end it. And posted pretty much what he said. Not only did he give a great arguement, but he also is the one deserving compliments for the ending. Anyone second the motion of Enoch and El Shaddai? Winner takes on the Emperor from Warhammer 40,000? HAHA! Just kidding. I'm thinking Squal and Cloud would be a good next as well.
*Steals your German Chocolate cake and eats it*
You know guys, I dont have to be the only one who has to post threads. I'd like it if others came up with fair matches and posted them. But, just pace yourselves guys... dont flood the game chat thread. Also, I put a result for Commander Shepard vs Adam Jensen PS: I challenge anyone who dares to name a faction who can take on the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40,000... PPS: I'm totally down to take on Sub Zero vs Aqua!
Result: Spoiler The thick urban streets were clear of anything living. It was desolate spare for a few fires burning refuse in the winding streets. The sky high towers on each side of the road blocked what little sun there was out at Dawn. Commander Shepherd walked cautiously in the street, past the crashed cars and stillness in the air. A rustling is heard far away in a bush, Shelherd quickly reacts to pull his trusty pistol from it's holster as it fits comfortably in his hands, and a visor for his left eye activates to scan the area. All is quite again. He hears footsteps approaching faster and faster towards his position, he squints his eyes and sees a shimmer coming towards him. He fires at it, causing the shimmer to disappear and reveal Adam Jensen quickly advancing as he shrugs off the bullets. Shepherd quickly attempts an elbow slap, but Jensen dodges and counters with a fierce punch to his face, knocking the Commander of his feet and sending his pistol flying. Adam wants to end this here and now, extending his arm blades and slams his arm down to Shepherd... But in a split second Jensen is knocked far back and off his feet by Shepherd who, by the skin of his teeth, was able to pull out his Shotgun from the back of his waist and shoot in Jensen's direction, though only partially hitting him, it caused little damage. Jensen activates his stealth shielding again before Shepherd can get on his feet for another attack. Now the game of cat and mouse begins anew, but with both side losing a little bit more of themselves. Adam Jensen recovers quickly in a shed nearby, inside it houses a large security mech, which gives him an idea. Shepherd in the mean time has equipped his sniper rifle, and peers down the scope to scout locations ahead of him. Nothing out of the ordinary. Or more precisely nothing he's looking for. Until he hears a buzzing sound as if a generator was starting, and looks towards the noise to find a ten foot security mech walking into the centre of the street. Jensen has hacked into it's controls and sent it on it's way to take care of Shepherd, whilst he has jumped from ledge to ledge till he awaits and watches from his perch above the street. The Commander ducts behind the cover of a concrete slab in the street and peeks round to assess the situation. The glowing red eyeball must be it's weakness, but as he thinks so the mech opens bullet fire hitting Shepherd, but thanks to his kinetic barriers protects him from any damage as he ducks back behind cover. He takes a deep breath, ducks above the concrete slab and aims up his shot. Time slows with his heightened reactions, and before the mech can fire again, the loud blast of the rifle is heard, followed by a crack, before the mech finally falls down. Dead. Jensen has taken this time to line up his sights with his own sniper rifle to lain a headshit on Shepherd. BOOM! Direct hit! But no, his kinetic shields shrug off the bullet, all it did was take out the shield for a time till it recharges. Jensen knew that he had to take the shield out for good. He drops the rifle on the ledge, jumps into the air and hurtles towards the ground. But thanks to his augmentations he lands like a feather near Shepherd's position and before the Commander realises what's happening Adam Jensen stands right next to him. He knocks the sniper rifle from Shep's hands, and relegating the shotgun from before instead of going for a direct approach launches the TYPHOON Explosive System launching mini explosives all around him, and before Shepherd can react they explode before him. Jensen knows that it's over, no tough guy has ever survived it. But he never had to fight Shepherd, who may have lost his shield completely and with bits of shrapnel in his face comes back into the fight quickly, taking out his Assault rifle, whilst Jensen is stunned by his survival, Shepherd fires the gun point blank into Adam's chest. The cyborg falls back from the hail of bullets, with his innards both mechanical and natural are on display for all to see. In a desperate attempt Jensen attempts to stab the Commander's stomach, but anticipating this move Shelherd dodges and fires one last time into Adam Jensen's face. It's over. Commander Shelherd walks away uttering his last few words, "I'm Commander Shepherd, and this is my favourite way to win." Bottom line: Commander Shepard had too much technology. Shield Technology, Military training, and weapons with 150+ years of technology was just too big a hurdle for Jensen to overcome. I liked Jensen, but Shepard was just too much.
Starcraft has Space Marines. Its kinda loosely plagerized from Warhammer 40,000. Only they don't use swords or chainsaws and are not superhuman, with the notable exception of their special forces unit Ghosts, who have cloaking tecnology and limited Psychic powers. Their tech is what you'd expect from the year 2500. They have the technology for beam weapons, but primarily rely upon Gauss Rifles and such. A Ghost team is like the ultimate special forces, wheras th marines alone would be tough for most sci fi units to take on. They do not have shield or force field tech, and rely upon good old fashioned metallurgy for armor. Particularly steel and Neo Steel.
Ok, now to compare how each weapon would respond to the other and how muc damage it would do. How would each person, including body armor and how effective it is to use. Also, include whether they would be eliminated from the fight (lose concious or lose control of limbs), and or die. Start at what they use as primary weapons and work your way down. I want t get more into it befre we call it, as it seems close. Also, I said added an "X-Factor" category since I don't know either character very well. I might let this thread g longer than the last since I don't know either we'll, its best to be thorough.
Someone earlier in the thread brought up Sora vs Link. That sounds like a good matchup. :) I've not heard playd infamous... v_v And seriously, id love to be a specialist non-judge where its Raynors Raiders (Starcraft II) against the Spartans of Halo. Or maybe the humans on Gears of War. (Not sure what to call the faction.)
I love playing devils advocate. :) Is it possible that maybe say, in an urban setting, Jensen would ambush Shepard? Or perhaps use his hacking skills to otherwise gain an edge? Also, if your basing Shepards superior strategy in tactics on the way he interacts with others, perhaps in 1 on 1 situations this coul be neutralized. I'm basing this counter arguement bsed solely on your post.
http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.p...en-vs-Commander-Shepard&p=3475468#post3475468 I posted Adam Jensen vs Commander Shepard. :) Wiki showed me that JC Denton wasn't the guy I was thinking of. So maybe next. :)
Rules: For those of you who have not seen the show Deadliest Warrior: Its a way of comparing two warriors who have never met on the battle field, and comparing them against eachother in a fair and reasonable way and in turn figuring out who is the deadliest. I dont want this thread to boil down to "Well ______ is stronger than _____ because he's epic!" It would be more reasonable to list thier powers and abilities and limitations. Its good to point out your weaknesses in your oponents abilities. Also, source any material you post. For example, don't say, "_____ is imortal because he can't be killed!" but instead, "_____ is importal because on chapter xxxx of part xxxx he did this, and revealed he couldn't be killed. In this matchup, we will compare two warriors from a different science fiction future. Adam Jensen of Deus Ex Human Revolution. From the year 2027, an ex police man, who became mechanically augmented to becoming a superhuman cyborg, against Commander Shepard. Since Commander Shepard is customizable, we will take his default profile. John Shepard, the Earthborn, Sole Survivor, Soldier. In this matchup, we will compare: Short Ranged Combat Long Ranged Combat Tactics and Strategies Toughness Honestly, I have not played either game (Thank you Deus Ex and Mass Effect Wikia for helping me write this). As such I feel a bit unqualified to judge and write the ending, but with popular vote I will. I would also like you to bring out which each characters strenghs and weaknesses as if you are explaining it to someone who has never played the game. Since neither of these warriors universes have never crossed paths, they will never meet in combat, now, WHO IS DEADLIEST! *plays intro music*
As much as I love Gordon Freeman, he isn't superhuman. The gravity gun is epic, but I think Gordon being an ordinary huma would limit his survivability. But id love to see him in a battle. Sure. If Cloud(serial number here) wants to judge I've no issue with him making another thread. As long as he believes he can be fair. Otherwise ill start it. Peace-and-War, I see your Deus Ex theme and I wonder how fair you'll be. X3 jk. I'm sure you'll be good. I want to see this myself.
Deus Ex looks super nice. I know Mass Effect involves superhumans as well... but I honestly never played either game. I second the motion of this matchup none the less. :) It'd also be interesting to have Squad on Squad as well in adition to 1v1.
I put the results of Kratos vs Sephiroth on the thread. Someone have any other ideas? I dont neccissarilly have to be the judge. Heck, I'd love to be a Judge of Starcraft Raynors Raiders vs Halo Humans or something.
Result: Spoiler Sephiroth stands atop a hill overlooking a ruined wasteland. When from amounst the ruins, arises a new challenger. His skin was as pale as ash, and he had a scar across his right eye, and a red march across his left. The man revealed his weapon, a pair of Falchion Blades chained together. Sephiroth drew his primary weapon, the great Masamune, as the Spartan moved toward him. Sephiroth is unalarmed and maintains his calm demeanor as the spartans march turns into a full charge. Sephiroth is easily able to parry the spartans initial attacks with apparent ease. But rather than countering with a slash, he returns fire with a Fira spell erupting into Kratos face. Stunned only slightly, Kratos regains composure and noticed his opponent withdrew further up the hill, now with a wing elegantly allowing him to fly. "Very well, you are a strong one, once I return your life to the lifestream I will become all the more powerful." He tauntingly mocked. "The depths of hell couldn't hold me, what makes you much better!" was the spartans reply. The SOLDIER raised his hand summoning one of his greater weapons. A powerful meteor with a diameter of about 50 ft width is summoned shortly above the Spartan. Kratos attempts to block such a massive attack, and is left on the ground, crippled by such a devastating attack. As the spartan regains his bearings, on all fours, he tries, and fails to stumble to his feet. The SOLDIER prepares for his finishing blow, and lands atop him from a seeminly endless height, and impales him with the length of his great Masamune. Sephiroth smirks, "That wasn't so tough..." he tries to withdraw his sword, and his face finally shows a sign of alarm. The blade does not come out. The spartan clutching the blade from his stomach exit wound, swings his chains around his back wrapping his opponent around the waste, the blades cutting into Sephiroths sides. With a swift and mighty pull, his opponent is cut in two. Standing upright, Kratos removes the sword from his wound, as blood drips onto the ground, he unleashes a warcry! In the battle of the two warriors who tried to reach the immortality and obtain the powers of a god, Kratos is deadlier. Why? Dispite having the ability to destroy entire planets, Sephiroth was still mortal, and was killed by mortals. Kratos on teh other hand, challenged immortals, and won.
I knew I shouldve invested in Apple in 2098. Bill Gates GLaDOS 7.8 was a bad idea. PS, Soilet green is made of- *Suddenly picked up by a van of people in white hasmat suits*
How does Kratos refusing to stay dead work? Like, seriously, I know very little about God Of War canon. Did he simply fight his way out of the underworld? And you mentioned Kratos Spartan herritage, exactly how intense was his training in God of War? Like what are some of his great achievements? Aside from killing gods. I know Sephiroth's "imortality" is based on the fact that as long as there are those with Jenova cells, he could always manifest himself in one of those given the correct circumstances. Thus making the entire plotline of Advent Children. However after Advent Children it seems as if the cycle was broken... altho Sephiroth implied otherwise. As for Heartless Angel, I could debate it is not a canon move, since he doesn't use it in Final Fantasy (that I know of, unless I missed something). Although he does use it in Dissidia (Which btw, is actually Final Fantasy Canon), but the casting time on that move is only when he is in EX Limit (And to anyone who played FF or Dissidia, you know limits are situational, not a constant threat), and has a long casting time... I doubt Kratos would let him finish such a long attack without retaliation.
For those of you who have not seen the show Deadliest Warrior: Its a way of comparing two warriors who have never met on the battle field, and comparing them against eachother in a fair and reasonable way and in turn figuring out who is the deadliest. Since both warriors are superhumanly strong, possess a variety of supernatural powers, and ride the line between mortal man and god, I believe this to be a good initial matchup. I dont want this thread to boil down to "Well ______ is stronger than _____ because he's epic!" It would be more reasonable to list thier powers and abilities and limitations. Its good to point out your weaknesses in your oponents abilities. Also, source any material you post. For example, don't say, "_____ is imortal because he can't be killed!" but instead, "_____ is importal because on chapter xxxx of part xxxx he did this, and revealed he couldn't be killed. I hope this thread is discussed in a fair and organized manner. All forum rules apply. The categories I decided to post this on: 1. Physical Combat 2. Supernatural abilities 3. Who is simply harder to kill 4. Tactics and strategies Today we discuss Sephiroth, the maniacle antagonist of the Final Fantasy 7 Universe, bent on world domination, against Kratos, the ancient warrior who dared to defy a god. Neith of these two fictional warriors universes have ever collided, therefore they will never meet on the battle field. We both know they are extreamly powerful, but WHO IS DEADLIEST!
Alright... goodnight. I'm gonna start the thread anyways. Your welcome as a Kratos Expert next time you sign in... http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.p...or-Sephiroth-vs.-Kratos&p=3473507#post3473507
