It gets brought up because is a fundamental issue with the site right now. Again, you aren't showing very good leadership skills. Like the way you talked back to Luxord in the discord chat. If you were on the upper end and speaking about this in a mature and respectable manner, I wouldn't care. But it's starting to really wear on me when you talk about this as if you aren't acting immature here.
Why, because it was at you? I've been called way worse on this site and I didn't cry for a ban.
Excuse me but, calling names? You know you could at least come with other conclusions. Like "leaked important/confidential staff information" or "incited a flame war". There are multiple directions you could chose here. But calling you names? Is this first grade? Do we need to call the teacher because Catalina called Blaine a buttface or something? The drama is going to continue because I believe you fail to see some of the core of the problem here, and I'm genuinely worried about your leadership ability on this website if we're banning people over name calling, Twerp.
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I’m kind of prewriting this under assumptions about how people may have felt about this game’s ending. I know some people might feel like it was an unsatisfying win but I think you guys shouldn’t think so because you guys won fair and square. Sure. Mixt got modkilled and it sucks but things in real life happen, unfortunately they ended up modkilled instead of switched because there were people who just went inactive and dropped out which is a shame because emergency situations are what the subs I think SHOULD be for. Anyway, if anyone was feeling like I kind of just “gave up” and the ending with the confession it really wasn’t supposed to be that way. I was hoping because of previous events in the game where people overanalyzed things that maybe my last comment could have eventually led to people thinking Mish, Ghost, and I were a scum team because of how we ‘didn’t think of Mish as mafia until Midnight died’ without clear explanation. I really did shoot myself in the foot at the end, and I didn’t think there was any way whatsoever to come back from my clearly obvious mess-up so I figured the best I could do was hope to confuse and maybe get people to think I was going to heavily after Mixt because they were town. But then I knew Mixt got modkilled the next night and knew at that point there wasn’t much I could do. It was a really strong town play, especially Judge as the cop. I unfortunately got my head wrapped in Cal maybe being the cop but by the time I was going to suggest killing Cal, Judge had basically cleared her. So while the ending was a little lackluster, congrats to the town. I’m going to take this as a big ‘what not to do as a mafia member’ lesson.
"I have a thought on this that doesn't involve that..." Kaida replied loud and clear so everyone could hear her before she crossed her arms and said, "Oswald said something about only keybladers being able to leave, right? Maybe it has to do with our keyblades? Now that this world doesn't have to worry about The Doctor and Mortimer we're safe to leave?" It could have been a far off guess but Kaida shrugged and said, "I think it's just better not to wake up the person we spent an excessive amount of time trying to disarm and knock out."
I had hoped that maybe if I got away from the computer for several hours I would be calmer and be able to defend myself better. I got myself a little too emotionally invested in this game, and in that emotion I thought I wrote something clever, but I dug myself a bigger hole. I basically admitted my role without intention, and at this point, there really isn't a reason to defend it. I should have stuck to my strategy, but I started playing differently this game day. That was a horrible mistake, and gave me a lot more anxiety than it should have. But here's my question before I leave things up to fate, are you certain you've got my partners right?
I said it as a hypothetical. That's why there's an "if". She claims to be town, and I claim to be town, which is why I said it in that manner. Mish isn't my third choice. I don't have a set ranking because I know all three of them are mafia. But from what I am getting from this conversation, Mish and I are stuck in a sort of 'prove they are mafia' type cycle. Since most of this conversation has been a back and forth between me proving Mish is mafia, and Mish proving I am mafia. Unless you guys have the definites, because you guys are the only confirmed because of Judge isn't that right? Vouching for myself doesn't prove my innocence. But what good does it gain waiting for someone to speak at this point when we're stuck between four people? Mixt is mafia.
It's fine. I'm not going to plant my vote yet. I am going to vote for Mixt. Because while I do know all three of you are Mafia (Mixt, Mish, and Ghost), Mixt is the only person I have been pushing at with strong evidence. I could literally vote for any of you three, but Mixt is the only person I can reasonably point out to the confirmed townies that they are mafia. Ghost would have been my second choice. We are kind of stuck on each other and I don't know if I can convince the town that you are mafia yet. But right now, if you are a townie like you say you are, you must understand that you and I going back and forth between each other lets Mixt and Ghost back away. Yes I know Mixt has a bit of an emergency going on, but he is still mafia.
You know what, I actually have to apologize for this accusation, as upon going back for the evidence I realized I read that entire conversation wrong, and I am not willing to push a conversation that doesn't hold this point. So I am sorry. The conversation was about being able to accuse under the solid foundation that you would already know who all townies and mafia are if you were indeed mafia. Which Judge was using to point out why you did not accuse Mixt or I. This was his quote: In regards to the cop part, I was not intending to imply you did this before Cal was suspected. I wasn't trying to say you were pushing for a cop reveal before Cal was even suspected. It was only AFTER Cal was being suspected by Cat that you began asking for Cal to reveal her leads because there was "no harm in doing so at this point since Cal was guaranteed to die from the mafia" Except, the problem with this whole thing is simply that it wouldn't have benefited the town to only know who the two town players are would it have? It was day 2, and frankly way too early for this to benefit the town. But the thing is with that voting, I don't see why people thought at the time Mixt was town? His ability to respond back didn't really feel like enough to clue in that it was a town benefit? Also in regards to thinking Mish was town up until Midnight died, I hope you don't mind me doing this but I want to wait until after Ghost has answered, since I feel like she is copying mine to give off a buddy vibe. It's paranoia sure, but I have it prewritten, and the second she sends hers I will send mine.[DOUBLEPOST=1468276807][/DOUBLEPOST]gdi posts after me hold on Or maybe you didn't think she was cop so we would be focusing on her? I mean, at the time we could have thought she was scum protecting her own scum, or we could have cop speculated. What if you were hoping she wouldn't answer so that ambiguity remained and those of us who thought scum would lynch her on her own?
Despite what my activity may seem to be, I'm busy until around 6pm tonight. I still was suspect of Mixt even after people started clearing him as innocent but I was banking off the fact Midnight might have been mafia since I had mentioned the detachment I felt with spreadsheet tactics. Ghost has been quiet and for the most part also not too opinionated, she kept mentioning not feeling like she'd be able to make too detailed cases on people and every case she did write out... I dunno... I just read it as superficial? Like, it didn't offer any insight other than what was already pointed out. Mish has been putting on a defensive front but I don't blame her. She's trying to show her three reads but the problem with building a case against me is that I am a townie. Mish has been playing this entire time with almost this impression she knows more than the rest of us. Even Judge had called her out for it yesterday. Even before that during the time when Cal was being suspected as cop (which obviously turned out to be false) Mish had been pushing for a cop reveal, which I did not see as a benefit to the town that early on. Judge made a good choice revealing when he did. I'm pretty sure that, if I wasn't a suspect and Judge didn't let himself out as cop, that I would have been killed last night because of my certainty towards Mixt as mafia. Ghost makes sense in the long run, but Mish is admittedly someone I thought would have been townie until Midnight was killed. So well played on that part. But I still don't know why Mish voted for me that day though, was it to get me to speak? I'm sorry I didn't even see your vote for me until the time had been up and I had kind of passed out really early the end of that game day.
Why are we voting for a deadline extension when we still have over 24 hours left? That's the only thing I'm confused on. I'm okay with extending the day if there's a really good reason for it but I'm more confused than anything on that.
Oh. I genuinely did not realize this, I mixed up in my head the discussions we have had this day phase. That is my bad and helps no one and I apologize. Why are we analyzing the benefits of modkills anyway? It's not helpful in any sense to look at that as a potential turn or strategy. The fact that @Mixt has avoided posting since the confrontation bothers me because it's like he gave up. He didn't attempt a defense. I think instead of banking on modkills we should be back on analyzing on who would potentially be mafia. Have addressed at all that @Calxiyn 's faith in Al being townie was something we all thought was a Cop move, but now we know she isn't Cop? Was Cal's alignment confirmed and I missed it? Because yes, while I do agree with people's suspicions of Ghost, I don't necessarily have that feeling that Cal is town anymore. I feel like her actions and talking abut the mafia making stupid moves could potentially make her a third member. We know about Mixt but my guesses on two are: 1. Ghost 2. Calxiyn ~Potential being Marushi, with what happened with yesterday's vote. I don't have more to bank that on. If I missed defenses I am sorry, there was a lot to catch up on.
I'm sorry I didn't pop on last night, things were happening at home and I wasn't able to pay my full attention to this game, which is a shame because of the huge bomb that was dropped on us. But I have had my suspicions of Mixt for the past two days and explained why. I said gut instinct because it was my gut instinct to choose Mixt over Marushi. Because at that instant both could easily have gone together. But when Marushi had asked me to explain my gut instinct I explained it more. I am aware of what bussing is, but I haven't exactly been close with anyone in any game I played, I get stuck in a "what if I'm being played" loop over and over again and it puts me into an anxiety where I have to hope the town does well. Also, not to turn the topic away from me, feel free to question me all you wish, but @Mish has seemed to have been forgotten about by everyone here.
The reason why is because Mixt offered his vote as if it didn't particularly matter. Your vote is your lifeline in this game, and he swapped his vote for you, not for himself I could read this as you both being scum together, but the fact that his vote was thrown that way really confuses me. I don't look at a vote as something you can just hand out for a switch. In the case of Midnight, it reminds me of a previous game where a mafia member intentionally used statistics and data and just threw out numbers to get posts out there. But it feels different to me because she seems to be putting in more emotional input into her posts than that particular mafia member who felt detached. But my opinion is pretty confused about her even with all you brought up. It's not that I don't have any impressions of Midnight at all it's just that I don't particularly get an opinion of her either way because charts feel like a very detached form of playing with the town, but she has been trying to keep people from bringing up cop speculations which is a very harmful thing for the town to do. I might need to go back and do a mass re-read of all her posts and see if it sways my opinion in either direction.
I have not been called out for being a quiet member and being told to post more. I have posted when people asked opinions and responded to discussions people were in the middle of having, calling them out or speaking my thoughts on what they said. And it was usually without nudges, with the exception of when Midnight asked for my mafia and town reads. I recall instead being labelled as "forgettable" which, I didn't particularly understand either, but I understand it more. Because I can't help if that happens. Now, in terms of everyone suddenly getting off of the Cat or Cal opinions, I don't fully understand why. I understand with Cal more but I'm not so certain about Cat. I understand the reasoning for switches at the end of the day because it was a last second 'I don't have enough information to make an informed decision about Cat" thing, but the problem I have with this is... I didn't feel there was enough information to make an informed decision about Tale either. And both had a split decision on why they could have been voted, but the last second vote was purely on the 'not enough information' reason. If there was always a teetering decision over the two it would have been understandable. I don't feel as though Cat gave me enough of a reason to believe she wasn't town, and I get busy schedules get in the way, however Cat's argument at the end of the day didn't convince me she was vanilla, and Marushi and Mixt were the reason it flipped. I have reason to believe one of them in that group of two are mafia, as there was no reason to get that hyped at the end of the day over a switch vote. I'm going with my gut instinct and ##Vote: Mixt
Getting up weakly after being resurrected Kaida took a moment to process the situation before she decided to run over to Beuce. She placed a hand on his shoulder, looked him dead in the eyes and said, "Thank you for the healing." before she immediately Launched Beuce at the Maldragon. Kaida used Launch, doing 88 damage
Mafia: 1. Cat~ @Cat~ Cat gives off this vibe because of her hyping Krowley's analytical skills up and making us feel the loss after he died. She was also the first to cop speculate. And while I am fully aware that I bounced off her speculation of Cal to defend Cal from being town, this was a night time slip admittedly and I wish I hadn't brought it up because I realized I just reminded everyone. I know Cat has been busy but I feel like her actions seem to benefit herself as an individual rather than the town. Also, we cannot forget how defensive Blaine had been, I know people say that's Blaine's personality but his play style for day 1 was definitely not one I was used to and was strange to me. 2. Calxiyn @Calxiyn Cal's defense of Al was definitely a peculiar one and I'm sure she regrets it. This is just speculation but the only reason I could see these two in the mafia together despite seeming to go neck and neck is that they agreed to go harsh on each other with their posts and perhaps there is a 'fake cop' scenario going on. Where Cat could be getting us to believe that to stir us up. these are the only two that I can think of but as a bonus because I want to go to 3. 3. Mixt @Mixt He has not voted and I understand that he said he wasn't getting any hard reads on anyone but he hasn't really used his vote yet to push anyone. But it's day 2, and day 2 isn't over, but it strikes me as odd. Town: 1. Al @al215 I feel as though Cal's defense of him, no matter what side Cal is on, makes it so he is town and I feel almost certain about this, as he did not ask to be defended and I'm sure if Cal is mafia she wouldn't have blatantly protected him like that. 2. Marushi @Marushi Now, Marushi doesn't make me believe she is town, it was Heart's actions. I honestly feel as though she made genuine mistakes, I have done the same thing. However, I can't fully be trusting in my believe Marushi is town because she's been very vocal as well and has not been afraid to go straight after Cal and others, which could be mafia actions pushing to get some vanilla's out. But I have more reason to believe they are town because of Heart. Also I'm aware that I have been relatively quiet compared to most of the "vocal" players but that's because every time I had a lead someone else finished it up and I really didn't think I could add anything. That's why I tend to respond to the big analyses And since I've got my opinions out there I hope you guys can understand why I... ##Vote: Cat~
You also put your vote under the spoiler tab which I wouldn't really recommend. And there is one big reason I can't fully agree with your analysis, one that Cat already pointed out so I don't know if it helps to hide it away because the mafia probably already saw it: There is a possibility that Cal isn't mafia, but is instead the cop and knows Al's alignment and was being a bit too obvious with trying to clear his name.
I didn't mean to make him sound like a bad player! I just mean hyped in general like "oooh I can't wait for Krowley's analyseseseseseses I'll go back and check it out but it might just be a dumb route to go entirely. I've never exactly been good with my leads in the past (by that I mean previous games)
