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Vexen, a bit taken aback by Xigbar's statement, looked down at herself. Smiling, she realized just how use to being a woman she had become. She had previously had plans to turn back, but she did not want to anymore.

She looked to the man infront of her and answered his question. "Well... it's a bit involved. You see Marluxia wanted to become a woman..." She heard a that-makes-sense humph from Xigbar. "...and she asked me to help."

Vexen glanced at the machine in which the experiment had taken place, realizing she still had not fixed it. "As you can see, the experiment kind of went badly and now... I'm a woman instead of him."

The young scientist looked to the nobody in front of her. He seemed to accept her answer. Then, suddenly, her eyes wandered down his body and she realized that this entire time he had remained in the nude.

"Xigbar! Put your clothes on!" She turned quickly so as not to look at the man's private areas.

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OoC: Your back, Kairi! Yay! You're so helpful, XxAxelEightxX!

I personally do not like the song, but the AMV was nice. The ending was a bit off, but I liked it anyways.

"Hello Roxas. I'd love some." Vexen sat down and eyed the other two nobodies, Lexaeus and Luxord, who seemed to be discussing something thoroughly. She was glad Roxas was there. She had missed him.

A grumble echoed in the kitchen, and the scientist looked down to her stomach. Roxas looked to her, as did the other two, though only for a moment. Her cheeks reddened just a bit. I need food. She rose from her position and was about to make her way to the refrigerator. Then she suddenly spun her head around to Lexaeus and Luxord, remembering something very important.

"Oh my god! Xigbar!" Everyone in the kitchen turned to her in shock. "He must be awake by now, and he's still strapped to the lab table!" The woman wasted no time in opening a portal and running through it.

As she walked into her lab, she threw her hands over her ears, shielding them from Xigbar's painful screams. She made her way quickly to him and attemtped to calm him down. Finally, he realized she was there and quieted down.

"My goodness, Xigbar. I am so sorry. You see, you fell and needed immediate attention.." She began to undo his straps. "... and then I had to medicate you. Well, we had to strap you down so you wouldn't hurt anyone." She finished with his straps and the man jumped up, naked.

"Oh!" Vexen turned and quickly rummaged through a pile of things until she reached his clothing. Handing them to the nobody she said, "Here you go. I hope you feel alright."

The fluorescent lights of Vexen's room were bright. The one on the far right flickered annoyingly. The scientist opened her eyes slightly, still partly asleep. She yawned and stretched her entire body.

"What a strange dream..." Her thoughts lingered off onto the dream she had had, and she stood, still dressed from the day before, and walked to her bathroom. She brushed her teeth, her eyes droopy, and then she felt her hair. It was greasy.

"I need a shower." Stripping off her clothing, she walked into the bathtub and turned on the water. Her body was instantly hit by a splash of cold water, chilling her, so she adjusted the knobs until the water was nearly hot. She let out a realaxed sigh.

Drying herself, the young woman dressed in a tank top and some long pajama pants. She wanted to be comfortable, and her organization outfit was dirty. Drying her long, smooth blonde hair, she slipped on some bed slippers and portalled into the kitchen to get some breakfast.

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OoC: I love your avatar, PrincessofHeart!

This is an interesting idea and I think it could serve many purposes, though the major one, as Darkwatch pointed out, would be for people with diseases. I do believe that much of what Darkwatch said is true, and thus the progress on this type of research is still not conclusive. Still, I think that research here should continue because it can serve a good purpose.

I'm not sure I would ever do this, unless of course I had a fatal disease at a young age and wanted to wait for a cure. But I think I would miss my family and friends too much. Im agine waking up a thousand years from now. All your known relatives would be dead, and your friends would be, too. The culture and social atmosphere would be different, and you may find yourself starting life all over again. I mean, its not a terrible situation because you can always make new friends and get things going, but it would be tough to remember of a life and time that no longer exist anymore. I think I'm fine living the life I know.

Once again I agree with JackS27.

And Kurouxingusu, just because you are not married does not mean that you do not know your partner well. You can be romantically involved with someone for years and not be married. And if you really want to be safe about it, there are contraceptives that guard against STDs and also you can have your partner take tests for STDs. These are all things that you can do if you are or are not a married couple. Also, you can have sex with a virgin but still not be a married couple. Eventually you may marry, or you may not. Still, having a virgin as your lifelong partner is the individual's choice.

I completely agree with you on this point. Sex should neither be overappreciated nor underappreciated. Extremes in anything are almost always bad. One must find balance in all aspects of life, including his or her outlook of sex. I think that many people who wait until after marriage to have sex view it as something very holy and precious, and yet I know of others who do not care a thing about sex and will have sex with almost anyone. Neither outlook, in my opinion, is healthy.

on the contrary, ~tReAh867~, i think marriage and sex are quite equal on the importance scale. you shouldn't marry someone with just any old reason just like you shouldn't sleep with someone for any old reason. and i know i probably won't change anyone's own opinion on this topic. marriage is a leap of faith, that's how it should be. i think its possible for people to feel completely at one with each other without sex (even before marriage). giving yourself to someone is the ultimate reward for humans. its suppose to be the most sacred act you perform. neither marriage or sex is to be taken lightly. (i hope im not contradicting myself, im having a hard time collecting my thoughts today...)

No, I do not believe that you contadicted yourself, and I know what you mean about having trouble collecting your thoughts. Anyways, I was not saying that marriage is to be taken lightly, or sex. And I do think that people can feel completely at one with one another before sex. When you feel that way, then you know that you are ready to have sex if you so wish to. And then you can even decide to get married.

I do think that giving yourself to someone is the ultimate reward, but I do not think that marriage is necessarily the way to give yourself. I think your relationship just reaches a point in which you know you have given youself to your other and you two understand this fact. But you do not need to perform a certain act to prove this.

Anyways, I think I'm just repeating myself. Please let me know if I am being redundant or unclear. I'm tired and I think I'm off to bed. This has been an interesting debate and I can't wait to see what everyone else has to say.

Yes, I apologize. I did not mean to direct that at you, the whole topic irks me a bit. I would like to say from here on that I say everything in a friendly manner, and I aplogize for mistaking your tone.

Just wondering, where did you get the information that there were terrorists in Iraq that had a hand in planning 9/11? And does this justify us going to all out war with them (this would depend on if there were many or only some). If there were only some terrorists, why did we have to go to "liberate" people from Saddam if we were after terrorists? Was Saddam one of these terrorists?

I would also like to leave you with this that shocked me: I am from Argentina and my late uncle still lived there. One day he called like he usually did every week or so and he told us about something he saw on the news. US soldiers had gone into a civilian's home, had taken the man and woman living there out, along with their children. Keep in mind that these were innocent people. Then, they shot every single on of them..... I was taken aback by this and do not know why this happened. We never see this in our media. Also, what about the tortures? I do not have hard facts on them, but I will try to get some. Still, any tortures are atrocious and the US, as far as I know, committed many tortures.

You've explained yourself perfectly well. What you said about people getting jealous or mistrusting their partners, I do not think that that is directly caused by sex, rather by other factors, like the ones you listed. Also, I agree that sex in any relationship should not be rushed. That is why I said that you should be in a responsible and mature relationship before having sex (and by that I mean one that is long enough for you guys to grow as a couple). You might have been going too fast and that was what was compromising the relationship, not the sex, or so it seems to me.

My parents had sex before marriage, had my older sister before marriage, and conceived me before marriage, and they are the two most in love people I have ever met. They support one another and give themselves to each other fully. It really is beautiful. I think that this may also be a reason why I agree with sex before marriage. I've seen it work out great!

Many people have found the fact that I do not plan to marry sad, but unlike you I do not view marriage as the highest thing a couple could do, nor do I view sex as that. I think that a couple can reach that highest point of love and understanding without the need of marriage and I do not think they need to get married to prove that love.

Sexual compatability was brought up because I have known a couple in which the male was not very... gratifying in bed. This led the marriage to break apart because they sexual frustrations caused other frustrations and so on. I agree, though, it is not as good a reason as the other ones I listed. I meant to list the other ones when I made the thread but it was late and I was being told to get off the computer...

I think that we see things oppositely. I think that marriage is more important than sex, and thus that one should reach the level of being comfortable enought to have sex before deciding to get married. I think sex is just another aspect of a relationship that should be experienced before you can decide upon spending the rest of your lives together. Also, I think that you need to feel truly unified before getting married. We view relatioships diferently. For you, marriage seems to be the ultimate in a relationship. For me, marriage is just something you do once you have already reached that ultimate level, if you want to.

Unfotunately, I do not think that we will be seeing eye to eye on the matter. You are religious and thus your opinion on the topic is largely dictated by that fact. I, on the other hand, am not religious and thus am free of that "rule", if you will.

I will reply to the rest later, but one quick thing now. How does that above statement justify us entering Iraq? What are we, the World's Defenders Against Terrorists, Whether You Like It Or Not? Guess what, there are terrorists in so many other countries and we have done nothing about it. What about all those people being killed in Darfur? Do you hear Bush saying, "Let's go to war with them because the are committing genocide!"... no.

Anyways, you sound a bit hostile. I'm sorry if I mistook your tone, but I want to keep this discussion a friendly debate. I will reply to the rest later when I have time to look up some hard data.

I completely agree.

Alright, I'm glad this got so many responses!

To begin, let me answer the age question. I am 17. And another bit of information (though you do not have to provide this information in your post; I just think that it helps in the discussion...) I have never had sex.

I would like to clear something up. I did not mean to say that sex is the only factor, or one of the largest factors, in a marriage, but I definitely think that it is one factor. I also believe that you should feel comfortable enough with your partner to have sex before you decide that you want to get married. You have to reach that point of comfortable-ness before you reach a point in which you say that you want to spend the rest of your lives together.

Also, many people who wait until marriage end up marrying young and their relationships have many problems thereafter.

Love is a very important factor. It is the reason for being together. It is just composed of many other factors, such as trust, honesty, understanding, etc. I will always think that love is the most important factor in a relationship.

I beleive that sex before marriage is alright if done responsibly. I don't think that people should go out and have sex with anyone just for the heck of it. I think that if you find yourself in a committed, mature relationship and you want to have sex, then by all means do! Unfortunately, many people,especially teens, have sex with people who they don't even know will be there afterwards. They are very immature about the whole situation. I think you need to respect your body and you virginity, but that you do not need to be married to have sex.

About the drinking, I hate it. I've done it but I don't enjoy it and I've never been drunk, nor do I ever want to be. I think that people who get drunk and end up having sex are a perfect example of the kind of immature people I mentioned above.

Now, this is for Rena88: You said that your religion was not the only reason why you disagree with sex before marriage and you state your other reason as this: "I choose it (waiting until after marriage) because I believe it is right..." I'm sorry, but that does not strike me as a full reason. WHY do you not think it is right?

And for twilightstown: I am wondering why you think that people would begin to mistrust one another after have sex when not married. I think that if you are in a committed relationship, then it wouldn't matter. You would already know the person well enough to place all your trust in him/her. Also, the example you gave... I am not sure what kind of problems having sex may have caused you (if you feel comfortable enough, please feel free to share), but I am wondering how often (I know this is very personal...) you and your girlfriend had sex. I think that sex, like anything else, needs to be done in moderation. If not, it will come inbetween you and your significant other. And if done in moderation, I don't see how it could come in the way of a relationship.

Finally, I would like to add this little bit. I do not plan to ever marry. I am not religious, therefore I don't plan to have a ceremony. The only way I would ever marry is through a civil union, and only for tax and security reasons (if I decide to have children I want them to be recognized as mine and my partner's). I just don't understand the idea of binding yourself to someone when you have already done so with your love. I believe in love and in mature relationships, but I don't see why they have to be "sealed" with marriage. So this is also a factor which dictates my view on this topic.

ive never read the novel of the last unicorn, though i meant to. and i dont know what swing kids is...

and yes, i do mean the one with david bowie.

i think that its really all in the individual's use of the word. some people use it lightly and others do not. and you usually know with friends or significant others how they use it and so you know how to take it.

still, i dont like it when people, especially younger people, just start a relationship and they are already saying they love the other peron. real romantic love (if it even exists... i like to believe it does) takes time. you have to be with a person and get to know that person on many different levels, and that takes more than a few weeks. so, i can definitely see what you mean. people are immature about love.

but i always say, to each his own.