Because I didn't see a reason to not vote? I've been debating a lot because I've not been very sure and if Judge is telling the truth then I didn't need to worry so much about that any more. That said, in hindsight, I forgot that Mixt was still an option and not confirmed so I probably shouldn't have voted so hastily. As to why Ghost, that was simply because she already had one vote against her.
I just changed the colours on my vote log (I haven't updated it for D3 mind) and soo much green. None of the mafia were voted for at all D1 (well technically I got 1 vote and you haven't confirmed my role yet but still, point still stands).
Wait so you lied about your reads to see what Mixt's reaction was?? Huh, wasn't expecting that. If your narrowing down to 4 people is correct I guess I'm the only town now that knows for definite who the mafia are. I'll trust you for now. ##Vote: Ghost
So through looking back through Cal's posts, I think what I remembered bugging me was her analysis of why Krowley was lynched. So I've said before I couldn't understand how any town member could be that certain (that early on in the game) that someone else was town without being cop. Al215 wasn't even being suspected beforehand so there wasn't really a motivation towards defending him. I still don't really understand that, unless she was mafia and obviously knew everyone's alignments. I guess she might have thought (if she's mafia) that if when Al215 was killed later and his alignment revealed, she'd have been seen to be defending a townie so people would think she's probably town. Not sure that plan makes sense but just throwing out ideas. On the other hand, I guess it is possible that she thought she knew Al well enough that she'd understand his actions and she fully believed her own analysis of it. I think it also bugged me how much she took from the analysis of the motivations and mindset of the mafia like saying the mafia must have a player who is new to the game or is easily intimidated. I've not found anything she's done today particularly sus though. Btw how do you guys do it? Build cases with evidence I mean. I'm going through everyone's posts but I don't know what is suspicious. I feel anything I say will just be repeating things that have been said before. This is a serious question, I would love some advice on how to case build. I'm going to continue to explain my previous post, but yeah, um any advice welcome?
Okay so I've just read through all that has been posted in this day phase and figured since I've been really inactive and really useless to town today, I really should post my thoughts. I haven't had chance to go through what happened day 2 or build any serious cases but there's still about 8 hours before I have to go to bed so I'll see what I can do. What I'm saying here are thoughts without much evidence but I just want to post something. Also it's seriously tempting for me to to go 50-50 on everyone because I have like no confidence in any of my reads, I know I'm usually wrong. However I've been told off and suspected for that before so I'm going to do my best to not be so indecisive. I'm suspecting Marushi less than I did yesterday, though I don't know how much of that is me just really really hoping that she's town as I know how much influence she has over us. I will remind everyone though that in previous games where she was mafia, she did play super pro-town. (Also when you ask people to question you, I find that really intimidating and don't want to question you as it feels like you'll have a counter for everything I can ask. Is that intentional?) I'm suspicious of Ghost currently because she seems to kinda fall under the radar. Her posts are never long or that risky but it's enough to give off the impression she is trying. cstar is also at a similar level but her posts I find more helpful so I'm less suspicious. I'm still a little suspicious of Cal. I still don't understand her defending of Al215. (I think there was more things that bugged me but I can't remember what they were so I may expand upon this later.) Mish, you made me seriously panic this morning when I saw your post about probably losing me. I knew we had one more day so as long as I posted today, I was okay but I think you thought the day ended yesterday, which made me doubt myself. I was looking at the people who had voted for tale and cat (now both of them are confirmed), with the thought that there is probably at least one mafia member hidden among them to help them get lynched. Excluding everyone who has died or been confirmed town, that leaves Mish, cstar, Marushi and Ghost (Marushi being the only one who voted for both). This doesn't narrow it down at all considering that only leaves me and Cal whose roles haven't been confirmed and I think both of us verbally mentioned our suspicions of them even if we didn't vote. I'd say my top mafia reads are Cal, Ghost and Mish. (I believe for now that Judge is cop) I know I haven't backed these up really, but as I've been super inactive I wanted to get a post out first and I can find evidence after.)
I'm here, I'm here, please don't mod-kill me. I have a lot of thread to make sense of though so I'll post again once I've reread everything and figured out my thoughts.
If due to the excess of people we manage to make multiple groups, would it be worth splitting into groups with similar time zones or availability? That said, that's assuming we find someone else willing to GM.
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I would be interested in this. I've only ever played pathfinder before (I think that's similar) but I would definately be up for giving this a go.
...This had to happen on the days when my activity is greatly restricted. I keep checking the thread on my phone but I'm finding it exceedingly difficult to find time to make posts. Even now this isn't going to be a long one. I'm not sue what the best way to defend myself with this restriction but I've got to find away because we aren't in the best position and I can't really afford to let you guys lynch another townie. (After all to me, I'm the only person that I can confirm as town so I shouldn't just even though right now I'm probably the lest helpful townie.) Honestly, it's hard to explain yourself as quite a few of your observations were right about how I play, just the reasons (ie I'm mafia) are wrong. I struggle with analytical posts, I struggle to make sense of the tone of someoe's post and if that's suspicious. Plus I'm indecisive as all hell. I know this and I always have been, check previous games. That's why I like logs and I like giving advice on how to play the game because I feel like I can still be helpful to the town even if my analysis is weak. I completely understand that it could be mafiaish but that's how I play. I've done the same previous games, you can check. Also as for the logs being less lacklustre compared to previous times, previous times I was allowed to let other people edit the logs so they weren't done 100% by me. A good around and the core part of them was, but not all of them. This game I am not allowed to allow you guys to edit them or comment directly on them as it would class as communication outside the game. Additionally I'e been a bit lazy and possibly less motivated than I have been previously. The reason I did one for Cat~ but not Cal, was two-fold , one Cal had posted a lot more so I think I looked at her posts and kinda chickened out and also past the whole "cop" suggestion, I was convinced she was going to be killed by mafia so didn't see the point in doing a log for her. I concentrated on doing logs for all the quieter members who were under suspicion at the time.[DOUBLEPOST=1467975107][/DOUBLEPOST]...I made quite a lot of typos in that on rereading of it. Sorry, use your common sense and it shouldn't be to hard to figure out what I meant. (around = amount, yourself = myself, ect.)
I understand where you are coming from here though another option for the cop is to wait, make sure their reads are obvious if we read their posts in hindsight and only reveal if we are going to lynch someone they know is town. If we are going to lynch someone that they know is town then I fully agree they should reveal and stop us, but if we wait it out they have a chance of surviving another night. Also it's possible that some of their reads have already died. If they only now have one or two reads on people still alive, would you still advise them to reveal?
Huh, wasn't expecting Al to be killed. I guess it may be because he wasn't really suspected at all (they're less likely to kill someone who is suspected as we are more likely to lynch them) and also he was quite helpful to the town, without giving us that much information from his death. Cal still being alive is suspicious (though I'm really glad whoever the cop is, they have another read). Mafia might have left her alone because either they couldn't because she's mafia or they didn't think she was actually cop and since she's under lots of suspicion she's likely to get lynched. Honestly, if she turns out to just be a vanilla townie, they probably made the right decision. However because she's still alive, I'm all for putting her back under lots of scrutiny. Also I'm not surprised they didn't kill you, Marushi, even if you are town you are throwing around a lot of suspicions. While some of these may be correct, others won't be. For someone as active and influential as you, it wouldn't be unusual if you accidentally set your sights on a townie and got them lynched. I'm still a bit suspicious of you and think you could be mafia. However, the point I'm making is that I don't think mafia would have killed you tonight. Additionally I want to warn people in advance that my activity today and tomorrow may be a lot less than usual as my boyfriend is visiting me and staying over so I won't be able to come on as much. I might be back to normal activity levels by tomorrow evening though.
Thank you~ You do the same as me and compliment the person who accuses you xD I've done that a few times too. I'm not sure I want Cal to deny it as that may narrow down the list of people the cop could be for mafia. Then again she could lie and even if she's not, the mafia might not believe her regardless. Speaking of people being back before the deadline, has Cat~ been around at all since people started to accuse her? According to my activity log, she hasn't even cleared the minimum post requirement for today. I would really like her to appear and defend herself a little. Also I'd like to hear who she is finding sus, so we have something to work with after we know her role. We don't have long until deadline, where is everyone??
So I got a question, what kind of fight is this? Is this your traditional hand to hand, one on one dual kind of thing. Fight to the death or until we get bored? Can we fight from a distance? Can we get creative on how we fight? Not all fights are about physical brawn.
That I'm not sure about. It does seem a very bold and risky thing to do, especially since Al had not been previously suspected. If she is town and genuinely went through that reasoning (maybe with a bit of bias towards Al because they are a couple), she was taking a big risk and she's got to know that she might be defending mafia. I can't remember who said it (maybe Mish) but someone said that due to that post it is highly doubtful that both of them are mafia. I don't think Cal is that stupid to link them so clearly if they are. I think Cal could be mafia and protecting Al who she obviously knows is town. Alternatively she could genuinely be town and be that convinced by her logic but I do not believe her explanation proved in anyway that Al was town so she could be effectively be protecting him regardless of if he's town or mafia. I don't really know what she could gain by this and defending someone preemtively could be a mafia thing. Basically if she survives the night, I am highly suspicious of her. I don't want to lynch her though if mafia will do it for us. This isn't a great analysis and I'm sure Cal has done a few more things that I remember being a bit unsettled by but I'm short on time now and don't have time to find them. Also so I was looking through the old mafia threads to try and help me with this one. In the Mr. E's one where you were mafia, I found that your posts were pretty much as pro-town as you currently are. I mean, I know this doesn't mean you are mafia as if you are town, you would obviously still be pro-town and I have nothing at all to say you are actually mafia. However, it does mean that I am not taking your pro-townness as a good sign that you are town because I think you'd also play this way as mafia. You are taking the spotlight away from yourself by pointing it at other people I guess. Your cop talk and wanting the cop to reveal themselves is also a bit sus but I can understand your reasoning there (even though I disagree). I'm not really certain about anything right now.
...um is Cal being a vanilla townie not an option in this? And for what you said, I don't think it's worth he revealing because it's not like we were planning on lynching Cal or Al anyway. This doesn't really narrow our pool very much, while not revealing she has a chance of surviving. Just having a chance at one extra read surely makes it worth it. I still don't actually think she is the cop.
I agree with tale, that we should drop the topic altogether. It's not bad to speculate about Cal as such but it is if you're bringing talk of the cop into it. Right now, we decided we weren't going to lynch her as we expect her to die so I think our time is better spent focusing on people other than her. If she is still alive tomorrow, I say we examine and put the pressure on her a lot more but today, if we're not going to lynch her and she'll probably die, going after her isn't the best use of our time.
No, no, no, you misunderstand what I was saying there. And I wasn't saying that bit was bad. Ughh bad wording. I meant that she especially shouldn't reveal herself if when she died, we would be able to tell them anyway. Her revealing would only mean she could say them explicitly but if we'd be able to identify them if she happened to die even without her saying them explicitly, she definitely should not reveal. (Assuming of course she is cop, which tbh I'm not sure she is)
But that is a choice for the mafia to make, they may decide they don't think it is her and to go against our expectations and kill someone else. They know she'll be under scrutiny tomorrow if she doesn't die. Her death is not set in stone. Revealing now would be bad. Especially if we would be able to work out her reads if we go back and look at her posts with the knowledge of her role after she dies.
No. I don't like this plan. I think this is bad. If she does die and turn out to be cop then we should be able to figure it out from her posts. There is a chance that mafia won't kill her (at least there was before you said this). I don't think she should reveal if she is or not. I say we pretty much stop speculating anything about Cal for today and IF she is still alie tomorrow then we can scrutinise her some more. We want to leave the identity of the cop as ambiguous as possible so it could be anybody. I am against this plan.
