...beat you to it :P
You're contradicting yourself, you must be MAFIA, everyone lynch Marushi!! xD
Pretty much exactly, I have been suspicious of Al for a bit but I wasn't in a rush to die, plus I didn't know his other partner. He also asked me to defend him and said a few other things that had me doubting myself, which is why I'd stayed quiet about him for a while. I didn't want to do what Marushi did because I think my other lover is town. Lynching you means potentially getting two mafia and while we'd lose you, we'd likely get at least one mafia.
Oh yeah, I probably should but that said we need to remember we're still near the start of this day so we really don't want to bring it to a hard lynch and lose half the day. We need to make the most of you while you're still here. xD ##Vote: Marushi
Nice one!! What are you planning on doing there?
I was not expecting that but it does make a hell of a lot of sense. It's a shame we'll be losing you though. (My town reading for you is currently shooting through the roof xD) This also solves one of my dilemmas quite nicely. I've not yet fully made up my mind if I think that they are mafia or not but I approve of the tactic. Taking out two suspicious people and one town is possibly better than 1 suspicious person and 2 unknowns.
Well the main ones that I was starting to doubt were Cal and Mish. Though I am aware that part of the reason for that is that they both were two of the first ones to go after splodge but that is straying into WiFoM, which is really bad so I feel like I shouldn't discount them for that reason. I was also starting to doubt Mish though for her other posts as well, as she seemed to be posting helpful things that I got a much better feeling from.
I'm not saying anything as I'm despairing as I'm watching my already weak reads slowly edge closer to neutral and trying to figure out how to stop them doing that. xD Well with the exception of you that is, I'm currently even more sure you're town.
...wow. That was one of the best results we could of got bar lynching multiple mafia and I think the first time we've actually lynched a mafia member D1 on khv. (There are 5 this time though which makes it slightly easier) I'm really surprised he actually only had one lover though, I was under the impression everyone had two.
It's the final day so we probably want to start thinking about who our final lynch target is actually going to be. Also I don't know if this applies to anyone other than Mish but if this earlier deadline causes a lot of people to not be able to get on before deadline or no as much or causes a significant drop in activity on the run up to the deadline, then I would be fine with the deadline returning to it's old time (like it was last game). I know this means I usually miss the last 3/4 hours of the game but I still usually got on in the last day and was able to talk in the run up to the deadline, if this is causing people like Mish to miss the entire last day, that's worse. Also 5pm is still early for me, if I end up going out today, which I actually might be, I might miss the end of the day. So I think if we do get enough votes to extend the deadline, it should be to it's old time and not just an extra 24 hours, otherwise we'll get the same problems tomorrow as we had today.
I don't mind too much but it does kinda go against the fact that earlier on I implied I'd been doing that jut before we started and I'd left it on auto-pilot. I figured you normally plotted to routes to the destination that the catpain gives us, then passes those routes onto me. I let you know if there's an issue and need more in depth navigation. If you are keeping her as doing the night-shift on the ship though, I am seriously worried about her/you. That would mean you're taking on an awful lot of roles and you've also been up all night before then doing your rounds and yeah, you'll probably be up all day. First-mate isn't short of responsibilities. Plus with the action that's bound to come, she probably won't be sleeping again until after the story ends. I'm fine with you being one of the few I trust enough to do it when I'm not there (though call me if you come across anything difficult) but I doubt you needed to be up all night for it. We have devices that alert us if anything unexpected comes up, like I think are going to go off shortly. I suspect I was there last night before I got some sleep and I was there again this morning, checking everything was fine. I imagine you mainly take over when I have a lot of patients and my doctor responsibilities come first. Also please tell me before we change routes, I imagine stuff like that my character would really want to know. Do you also realise by just saying 'I put us on course for...' you completely missed your own role. Surely you need to figure out the route to that place, miss navigatior, before just putting us on course to it. xD If you wanted to just change it slightly but not a lot, you could be like "I've plotted/plannd out the route to the marshmallow-and-books planet for the time being until she gives us a more definite answer." and give me the route or "As you probably saw this morning, I left it ready for you.". Though like I said, I'm fine with her doing it when I'm not there for simple stuff but I'm worried about her if she's done a night shift, I like to be told before an major route changes and also I have already said I was there this morning. Also to see friend requests on discord, you need to click on the icon with three people on it above the khv logo. Then if you're not already on the screen showing you who our of your friends is online, click on 'friends' then on 'pending' on the top bar. There you can accept friend requests. I hope that made sense.
Yeah, I know it's really strange, I'm still yet to be mafia and this is the 4th game I've played on here. That said town is the majority so it is still reasonable. But anyway, as for not making logs, after the last game I started to really doubt how useful they actually were. Also it got mentioned about someone voting just so it would appear on the log and deceive people. I don't want my logs to be used to help the mafia. Additionally nearly ever game I have played and done them, I've been ultimately suspected of hiding behind them (like Jiku is now). I did them previously as I wanted to be useful to the town despite my lack of skill at analysing posts. However since I was doubting their usefulness I figured this game, I would try not doing them and instead spend the time I would be doing them on attempting to make more reads instead. I'll see how it goes and if this is going to make me more useful to own or not. Also I have actually voted now though I understand your confusion with why it was suspicious for one person but not for me. (Marushi had mentioned it about me before though). Also in this game sometimes you have to consider that person's normal behaviour, so what is suspicious for one person may be normal for another. I completely get where you're coming from though. My thoughts have been kinda all over the place this post, did that make any sense?
Hmm okay so Nova’s case against Cal, I can see where he is coming from and I think I mentioned earlier that I had some suspicions about Cal but I couldn’t put my finger on why. So I had also noticed that a lot of Cal’s arguments seem to revolve about people’s phrasing of things. That is actually a legitimate way of catching people out and one of the more common slip ups mafia can make. So there’s nothing necessarily wrong with that line of thought and criticising people on their word choices, however Nova’s argument seems to be that that is ALL she’s done. I’m not sure if that is true or if it is, if it was intentional. I can see it being an unintentional thing but then again my gut feeling was to be suspicious of her. I really should check through her posts. Also the not teammates bit kinda makes sense but we should be really careful with stuff like that, as saying stuff like mafia wouldn’t accuse their own teammates is WiFoM and is dangerous territory. And your case on Mish…I’m going to need more time to think about.
Yeah you've not been on discord either xD I've been trying to use INSVP to destress from mafia but then nobody else has been adding to it in the last few days.
I'm really sorry if I left it at a point that is difficult to continue on from :/
Guys I just want to emphasise that the day ends much earlier in the day than in the previous game. Day 1 ends on July 31st at 12:00 PM EST/EDT (that's 5pm for any fellow brits). I just don't want anyone to get caught out with the day ending earlier. If you can't post during the day tomorrow, tonight may be your last chance to get your thoughts and votes in. Also I think I will ##Vote: Jiku Neon, I may remove this vote later but at the moment I just really want Jiku to post a bit more and give her reads on who she thinks is mafia or town. I don't even mind if they don't have reasoning with them or not.
Umm so people wanted better reads off me so I've just been through the thread with the player list on a word doc and have been making notes about everyone as I go. This is what I ended up with. al215 – not giving off quite as strong town vibe as previous game Ars Nova – could go either way. Posts are informative and helpful but I’m not getting a town feel. May be mafia. Calxiyn – bit suspicious of, can’t put my finger on why though. (I guess that’s what a gut feeling is xD) tribbles (cstar) - ummm Jiku Neon – NEEDS TO POST MORE AND NOT JUST STATISTICS. I’m suspicious of Jiku as statistics are soo easy to hide behind (though obviously I’ve also done statistics a lot of games and I’ve been town) but her posts themselves just give off a null read (almost robotic) and don’t tell me anything. Judge Sunrose – town? Seems very worried about the fact that we start at Lylo. Also needs to be careful of WIFOM arguments and lovers speccing. Karuta – not sure. I liked how clear their reads post was though. Korosu – NEEDS TO POST MORE Marushi – town (despite seeming to me less actively pro-town than before I actually get a much stronger town vibe off her than I did last game, strange.) Mish – mafia? (why is it that as soon as I put someone down as possibly mafia I start doubting myself?) Saxima – I have suspicions but a lot of the things that make my suspicious could easily be down to her being fairly new to this. I’d advise her not to suspect people just because everyone else does, that just leads to bandwagonning and isn’t great. Splodge – bit suspicious of but at the same time the bandwagoning on them is making me uneasy and that’s making me think they actually might not be mafia. (Is that WIFOM?) I think the initial thing with possibly having only one lover was nothing and people read far too much into it, though that obviously doesn’t make them innocent. Okay so my conclusion from this is that this fence is quite high and very hard to get off of. I think I’ve made progress but I’m still clinging to it quite a bit and am not going very far away from it. xD (ie I'm still finding it difficult to come out and say I think this person is mafia.)
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My apologies for dropping off grid slightly, it was partially due to the fact my brother is moving away tomorrow so I was spending time with him before he goes and partially because there's a lot of really long posts and I'm really struggling to figure out who I actually think is suspicious. Also it's nearly half midnight here and I'm struggling to concentrate, I'll probably do better in the morning. I will try to post better reads though. I'd like to say though, @Korosu and @Jiku Neon, I would really like some more posts from you guys as there really isn't anything to go on. Also I really would like it if you posted your reads instead of just statistics as statistics are soo easy to hide behind and makes you really hard to judge. Even if you don't give any reasoning, please just say if you think anyone at all is town or mafia.
Okay I've got to post more. I promised myself I'd be desisive this game and not afraid to post my gut feelings but it's still so difficult. Sitting on the fence seems to be my default position. Okay so I think Marushi is town, I think she still reads far too much sometimes into nothing but I think that has been done innocently. I don't know if this means anything and I'm not saying he's mafia but last game I got a really strong town vibe from Al215 on day 1, this game I'm not really feeling the same thing. I don't find him suspicious but I find it curious that I don't feel as strongly that he is town. I have the same thing with a lesser extent with Mish but then again I wasn't convinced for most of last game she was town. Hmm, also I'm not sure how I feel about the 'random' votes from Korosu and Saxima as when they did that there were already lots of votes flying around and also in a Lover's Game is it really going to be completely random? I'd far prefer 'gut feeling' votes to random ones. That said it could still be them being new to the thread or not reading through everything before posting. Also I approve of Saxima posting her gut reads. I really really want to hear more from @Jiku Neon, and not just statistics. I know statistics are an easy way to help when you're not so sure of the analysis but they are also easy to hide behind. I don't care if you don't back up your suspicions with anything more than 'gut feeling' but I really want to see them. Sooo um gut reads for me would be umm Marusi=town, and maybe suspicious of Mish and Korosu. Aghh I'm so unsure. @Marushi I've been trying to figure them out for the last day xD
