I've wondered this, myself.... I can't find a translation of what Namine actually said, so I'll settle for the interview... That I can't find a link to. -_-; Summery: -If a Heartless without a Nobody dies, the person is "revived," for lack of a better word, and the original person is whole and alive again. -If a Heartless with a Nobody dies first, the heart that is released (along with, I assume, the other hearts the Heartless stole) waits for the body and soul; in other words, the heart waits until the Nobody dies. Then, once it does die, the heart joins with the rest, and the person is whole and alive again. -If a Nobody with a Heartless dies first, then the Heartless, maybe the person will be whole and alive again. So. It's not that the Organization had to simply die to be whole. And it isn't mentioned whether they had to earn their hearts back. Their Heartless had to be killed first for it to be certain they'd get their own hearts back. Sora killed many, many, many Heartless between the beginning of KH1 and the end of KH2. Just Sora, by himself. Not counting how many Heartless the Organization killed. Or how many Heartless other people (such as Leon) killed. Judging by the number of Heartless killed, I think it's pretty much certain that at least some members of the Organization will be human again, and maybe we'll get to meet them. Apparently, somewhere along the line, Axel's Heartless had been killed. Then eventually, he died himself. Therefore, he returned to his original form. It seems fitting. He sacrificed himself for Sora and Roxas, and he got rewarded, I suppose. Though, it seems a shame... That makes what he did less significant.... I think it's also pretty much certain Xehanort will be back, obviously for the same reason. I think the Organization's plan was to kill enough Heartless and collect enough hearts that some of the hearts had to be their own and some had to belong to some of the lesser Nobodies. (Xemnas: "Share your power with all Nobodies." Well, lookit that. The Organization was even gonna rid of some of the lesser Nobodies. Y'know, the ones that attack you when the Heartless aren't around? Doesn't that mean that they were doing sort of a good thing by trying to get rid of some of those? Naw! That isn't possible, they're "evil"!) It's not close to a fool-proof plan; in fact, there was a pretty good chance it wouldn't work at all. But, they seemed desperate enough to try anything, I don't think they really cared. And, apparently, it worked for some of them. So, yeah, I guess the Organization won. Some, if not all, most likely got their hearts back. Way unfair, though.... With this information, what they were doing doesn't seem like such a big deal. It's not like the hearts they collected in their Kingdom Hearts were destroyed and unusable. (If they were, there wouldn't be much point in collecting them in that way.) Had it worked, after they were done doing whatever they were going to do with their Kingdom Hearts, it seems like the hearts that they didn't use would go back to the people they belonged to. So, if any of the Heartless the Organization released stole people's hearts, the people would (probably) be whole again... Doesn't exempt the Org., really, but it makes what they were doing seem much less evil....
Here. Here. I think it is safe to assume the 14th member is not Namine.
Uhh... Sorry? I don't get it.
*prepares to get butt kicked* Mmm... Well, OK. Actually... His eyes turn more yellow than orange. Terra's eyes. The only people in KH whose eyes are orange are: Ansem (Heartless), Xemnas, Xehanort (KH2), Master Xehanort... And for some reason, Ansem the Wise. All of these people were closely related to Xehanort. (I think it's safe to assume Baldy is somehow related to Xehy.) Two of them were Xehanort. I'm not saying that people's eyes turn orange when they meet him, or anything. I'm saying that they've made a point of making his eyes and and their eyes a special, specific color. However, yellow eyes have been more associated with Heartless and dark... And people with pointy ears. Saïx's eyes were yellow, for example (picture), the exact same color that Terra's eyes turned. That makes me think that Terra was either using dark or he was going into a Berserk mode similar to Saïx's. Not that he was turning into Xehy or anything. You assume that refers to the same person. There were at least 5 Keyblade Masters. Three of them "saved the world," the other two "wrought ruin and chaos upon it." That statement also seems to refer to the Keyblade Masters in general, not any one in particular. Terra was obviously not entirely there in that scene. And, I agree, he recognized Sora wasn't Riku, and he probably did know what Xehanort looked like. But how would be know that Xehy could take over someone's body? In fact, KH2 Xehy never took over anyone's body. Ansem did. And Ansem was a Heartless, he could do Heartless things. Possessing someone seems like a Heartless sort of thing. He might hesitate and stutter because... He wasn't entirely there. He was a little disoriented, as you say. I don't think Terra stuttering to say a 3-syllable name is a very big deal... Xehanort was no longer there. Xemnas and (formerly) Ansem were. How could KH2 Xehanort have done anything at all to Terra when he wasn't really there at that time? Obviously, Xemnas and Ansem never messed with him, nor knew he existed.
Yes, that's true. I was just saying that when they said she influenced Roxas, the first thought that came to mind was that it was in a good way. Like, she encouraged Roxas to go find Sora or something. (Though I'm not sure that's a good thing or not....) Also, I do think she is Aqua's Nobody, so I assumed she'd be a good guy. I agree with you, there really isn't enough evidence to point in any direction, to make any guess about what might've happened or how 14th came into play herself. No, but everyone calls Namine a witch anyway... Wouldn't want her getting confused with 14th. XP
Girl Of... Fourteen... Uhh... Hearts? We know: -She's a girl. -She's number 14. -14 comes after 13. -She isn't Namine. -14 is 7 x 2. -She influenced Roxas somehow. ...I don't think that's really enough to name her.... And why make her sound so evil...? We don't know anything about her, yet! XD She "influenced" Roxas, that makes her sound like a good guy, IMO. Why automatically assume she's evil? Also, I think "witch" is Namine's thing....
You mean in the order in which they sit? It goes by odd numbers up, then down by even numbers. Odd numbers up, starting from No.1, Xemnas, No.3 Xaldin, 5 Lexaeus, 7 Saïx, 9 Demyx, 11 Marluxia, then No.13 Roxas. Then down by even numbers from Roxas. No.12 Larxene, 10 Luxord, 8 Axel, 6 Zexion, 4 Vexen, 2 Xigbar, and back to Xemnas. Or do you mean the height of their chairs...? I don't know. It probably doesn't matter much in KH2, but that would be something to find out... In Days, I'd assume their chairs would all start out at the same height (except for maybe Xemnas), since Nomura said that the chairs rise when you succeed on a mission and lower when you fail one. If you're trying to recognize them in some of the cutscenes in FM+, you can always tell which one if Xemnas because his chair is the highest. Also, his voice is really easy to recognize. Xigbar is thin and right next to Xemnas, Saïx sits forward with his hands on his knees, Xaldin always has his arms crossed, Luxord... I dunno, with his hood up, he kinda looks like Xemnas or Saïx. (Does Luxord sit with his legs crossed? *giggles* I never noticed that. I should watch some of the scenes again.) And Demyx is thin and isn't anyone else. =) Hope that helps. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough or if I answered the wrong thing...:sweatdrop:
Ohh, OK. I understand. I didn't see chips of armor breaking off when I saw it. Thank you.
OK. Then wouldn't his armor have shattered into a million pieces as soon as Aqua caught him? He still fell, so as soon as his armor hit anything with any force, shouldn't it have shattered, just like his Keyblade did?
I agree, except for one thing: Wouldn't Ven's armor have shattered into a million pieces, same as his Keyblade did, the second he hit the ground?
Really? I thought Berserk Saïx's eyes were all yellow, like Shadows' eyes. I've never actually seen his face when he's in Berserk mode, so I don't know. Mmm, that's right, forgot about Terra, thank you. I thought his eyes turned more yellow than orange. Terra's eyes Xemnas' eyes Saïx's eyes Also, I was wrong. Ansem the Wise's eyes are also orange, I think.
You ever notice that Xemnas, Ansem (heartless) in the portrait, Xehanort, and Master Xehanort all have the same pointy elf ears and the same color eyes? Xigbar, Saïx, and Ansem the Wise all have pointy elf ears, too. Their eyes are yellow, though. Xehanort's, Xemnas', etc. eyes are orange-ish. I dunno if it matters at all, but it's interesting. I have no idea why they're like that. In Xehanort's, Xemnas', etc. case, it probably just means they're all related somehow.
Demyx/Sitar (H)Ansem/(KH1) Kingdom Hearts Luxord/Cards Xemnas/(KH2) Kingdom Hearts ...Excuse me, WHAT? Srsly. Real pairings. And apparently, Xemnas' Kingdom Hearts loves him, too. o_0 Also, pairings involving Donald, Goofy, or Mickey with anyone who is not the same species.
Nnnn.... I don't really care about RoxasxNamine. I think it's cute, but I just don't really care about it. I didn't really see that Roxas cared about her much. Roxas and Namine didn't know each other for long. (Namine stopped time in the virtual Twilight Town just to meet him, right?) Namine wanted to help him, and Roxas was grateful for her help, but there were other things to worry about and Roxas wasn't interested in her, then. And then Roxas met Sora, and that was the end of that. Namine didn't meet him again until the end of the game. Namine definitely cared about him ("So, we can be together again!"), and Roxas was happy to see her again, but I didn't see that as evidence that they loved each other... Or whatever. They just seemed like friends happy to be together again. Namine wanted someone to care about her and to be her hero, and she tried to make that Sora. So she replaced herself with Kairi. But that meant that Sora really loved Kairi, not her. Ending up with Roxas instead seems fair. She'll still get her hero and someone who cares about her. Maybe Namine and Roxas will later end up being together and loving each other and whatever, but I didn't see them as much more than friends in KH2. Meh... Sorry if that was stupid....
This is agreed. On both counts. Especially the second. XD Edit: Also, I want Vincent. And Balthier. But mostly Vincent. And I think all the dead CoM Org. members should have shown up in some in-the-past cutscene, like the one with Zexion and Xigbar and Vexen. 'Cause that would be awsome.
I've always said "Dem-MY-icks." When I first saw his name, I thought "Demetri (Dem-ME-tri)," so Dem-MY-icks is how I first pronounced it. Or something like that.... I know that's not right, but that's how I've gotten used to saying it. My nephew says "DEM-icks." No, I'm pretty sure the game never says his name. Wish it did... I'd really like to know how to pronounce his name for real... Wonder if 358/2 Days will tell us (if it has voice acting).
This is agreed. XD
May I, a rabid fangirl, worship you, please?
Is it my turn?
No. T_T I don't have either. I swear, I will get a DS. Just to play Days. (Mmm... And Revenant Wings.) My nephew (who I made like KH) has a PSP and will probably get a DS sooner or later, so I can steal his PSP to play BBS and he can steal my DS (when I get one) to play Days, and when he gets a DS, we can play Days together. =) I'm happy. But I still gotta get a DS, which won't happen anytime soon. Anyone know how much they cost? $130?
