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Thanks. Go ahead, I don't mind, as long as you give me credit, lol.

cool! thanks.

It seems a good way to avoid it it to repeditly turn into Final form, and exit the world, go back in, use final form, ect. This way, I think you can get a negitive score, and will never have to worry about it again. Use it an leave ten times in a row, and you won't have to worry about it until you drive 100 times. pretty sweet.

By the way, I'm not sure what you guy are talking about; reseting the count, reducing the count. Could you please explain to me what the chance of antiform is based off of?

These quotes are from the promotional video shown at the square enix party. I'm not sure how good the translations are, though, but they look pretty good to me.

Here's what I think of them:

To me, this looks like it is regarding Terra as well. However, it seems to support some things I have thought for a while.

Before, I have said that 'birth by sleep' could refer to the birth of a new persona after the original person's memory is lost.

There are a few lines that support this. "I do not want to forget after he is born" is the main one. After the new person is born, he will forget. "Are the days memorized" ties it closer to memory.

"The days after he is born are counted" makes it seem like the person who was 'born' is dangerous. (your days are numbered)

With "do not return to healing their pains," it can be interpreted as emotional and sociological pains. Meaning the old person will not return to his friends and making them happy, since he doesn't remember them.

"With those in mind, is there a new story" further supports the 'birth' of a new person, since it would therefore create a new story. It is a question since it could be seen as a new story, or a continuation of an old story (the person before he lost his memory’s story). It begs the question and brings out the theme of: if someone loses their memory, are they truly a different person?

Ya, thats true. Each nobody looks like it has a connection to an org member.

Ex. Dragoon-Xaldin
Gambler-Luxord
Sniper-Xigbar
ect

I'm not sure if you can force someone to become a nobody, but it's a possiblility

Thanks for posting the story, I had forgotten what it said. If there was only one world... Then wouldn't it's heart have been kingdom hearts?

So the true kingdom hearts was the heart of the big world. When it split, it became 'the heart of all worlds,' since all the worlds are from the big world. It is like it is still the heart of that world, but it's world is in many different peices.

You're right about Xehanort's voice. "Master Ansem, regarding the..." He sounded like he had his nose plugged.

What are you saying? bad voice acters are better than ones who are good? I totally think thats not true.

I agree with Kanji, though. The same voice acter would be a good idea from a dramatic point of veiw.

Actualy, if you go into a drive form in a room with a save point in it, there is no way you can get anti-form. This is because you can't heal in this form, and I supose the game would glitch if you stepped on a save point.

Also you can't turn into anti-form if you are using final form. I didn't know this, but you can revert anti-form when there are no ememies around.

I think you're wrong. Just by watching that fight, you can look a little into their characters.

Terra- Good fighter, but relies too much on rage. He doesn't really think or plan. The rage/rushing in might be a result of this paticular fight, though. The caretaker is not the most skilled person, that's the point. He rushes in too much, an as a result, get hit the most times.

Ven-He would rather try to reason than fight. He seems to be a pretty balanced fighter, though he doesn't show us much of his skills in the battle. He seems Naiive, and is left handed. Also seems to let emotions guide him.

Aqua- relies on magic rather than phsical strength. She is caring, kind and compassionate. She castes reflectga on Terra, proving she cares for/looks out for the other members of the group. She also seems to have something going on with Ven.

One thing though, in Secret report XIII, Nomura said that the fact that all the hearts went to the organisation was peculiar. They nomaly just go back to their bodies.

Also, this might sound supid, but I just can't remember.

The princess hearts were gathered to open the Door to darkness. Was this only to flood darkness on the world, or did it have something to do with optaining Kingdom Hearts?

Ok...It seems like I have alot of thinks to clear up. Most of the information I got from Secret report XIII (I don't feel like referencing a bunch of times)

First of all, When a person dies their heart doesn't leave their body. The heart says there and their soul leaves. "The soul leaves the body and gives way to death."

Secondly, THAT KNIGHT IS NOT ROXAS!!!! Sorry about that, but people don't seem to get it. It was announced that they are all new characters and his name is Ven. This was announced officially. He can, however, have some relation to Roxas/Sora. He could be another form of him ect... There is a reason Nomura made him look like Roxas, but we don't know why yet. Also, the dimensions of some of his face are off: Jaw, chin, neck ect.

How could it even be him? After Sora became a heartless, Roxas was born in twilight town. In fm+ we see a scene where Xemnas naming him. To me, it seems like he was just there too, since he looks kinda empty minded at the time.(he doesn't have Sora's memories, so he is unable to even make the feelings based on memory as other nobodies do, until he starts having dreams of Sora/interacts with others)

Axel buys him ice cream the first time they meet and then he becomes a member of the Organization. There is no time where he could have randomly gone, got/changed his name to Ven and fought in a battle that most likely took place before the time Sora was born.

Also, the names Ven, Aqua, and Terra are now the official names of the knights.

Also, the Armor in the room with the cloaked guy (Xemnas in the room of sleep) looks more like Aqua's. If you look, you can see that it is just the pieces of amour; no one is inside it.

Wow, good point. I guess that's why the little cave with the door leading to the last boss in KH1 looked so much like the cave back on the island. It was to clearly show that he had to step away from his childhood.

I don't know. I really think there is a difference between the Kh in kh1 and what we saw in kh2.

I'm not sure if Kingdom Hearts is were all hearts are born and also end. I mean, look who told us that: Xehanort's Heartless. Wasn't he the one who also said his name was Ansem and the heart's true nature is darkness? He has bad sources or he is a big fat liar.

If the Kingdom Hearts we see in Kh2 is the same as the one from kh1, how could they have used it to be complete and why did they have to 'build it?'

Also, just because all the world's hearts made the door doesn't mean they were in Kingdom hearts. If they were, then they wouldn't be hearts of worlds, since they were not in the center of worlds.

Well, you do have Three party members in FF7... I can't think of anything else though...

I attached a pitures of aqua and her keyblade and the dark keyblade made of the prince's hearts to compair. It may be a drawing, but it was the best I could find. They don't look the same to me.

HigherBeing, don't worry, we all get frusterated at times. It happens what there is so little information and so many possiblities.

Oh yes, the fairy tale. I don't remember is it talked about seperation of the worlds, but if it did, it probably is a telling of the knights.

Also, I'm not sure what is with the giant doors we keep seeing. I did notice that the stained glass at the top of the door is in the shape of a dusk's 'mouth opening' (like Vivi's hat).

I would also like to note that you go though a door every time at the end of the game (at the point you can no longer turn back).

just what are these doors supost to represent?

Ya, It all begining to come together...

Yes, I've heard people say that the kingdom hearts in the video isn't real. Could you please give me a link or tell me what interview it's from?

A Kh of Keyblades? Hmm, good idea. Just as Kh is said to be the source of all hearts, It is the source of all keyblades. When someone has a qualified heart, it is what creates them.

When keyblade user dies, their keyblade would go back to That KH. But it looks to me like it was sealed, probably because, if found, someone could take from it ultimate power. It also explains why all the keyblades are there. After it was sealed, the old keybaldes were put under it, since it would be where they should have gone. This explains why they were all sticking out of the ground and why there were no bodies/bones.

About what you said about it being the world. I remember XH talking about 'the current world' that they were in like it was supreme or something. Did there used to be only one big world? I don't remember.

Good point about Roxas in deep dive. Yes, it seems to effect a nobody's body and it seems it isn't permenent the first few times.

Hmm, You know, I heard they were blue, but they may not have been. I think a good place to check would be that picture that apears on the computer after you do the tron level.

Ya, all that stuff I said about the other Xehanort being his parter is speculation. but some of the info from the interview suports what I said.

"Master Xehanort's avenger, his name is Terra."

After he leaves Ansem the wise, I said that he goes to train the chasers.

Xehanort (as we know him) was never considered a master by anyone. Ansem the Wise was his master. Even when he got rid of Ansem the wise and bossed people around, he had already stolen Ansem's name.

Therefore, Master Xehanort would be refering to Baldy. If he was training Terra, he could be considered an avenger (Since this was probably translated from Japenese before it was put into code, avenger shouldn't be talken too literally)
of him.

Lol, thanks.

I also found it wierd that he said that roxas' having a heart has to do with Xehanort's memories. It could be something not directy related, like Roxas is related to Ven, who is related to Xehanorts memories, like you said.

What? Ewww! I can't beleive they'd do that. What about Terra from ff6? That is a very femine name. sigh, but it does mean Earth. I guess I'll get used to it...

I really don't know what is up with Kingdom hearts and if the other one was fake or not. I don't think you missed the answer, it just wasn't there.

In secret report XIII or somewhere, Nomura said that Ansem, seeker of Darkness went around capturing worlds with the heartless. Kingdom hearts of worlds was one of them. This leans towards that kingdom hearts being real.

This is how I explain Kingdom hearts of worlds: The heart of each world is the culmination of all things living in that world. Kingdom hearts of worlds is the culmination of the world's hearts. This is why it is called "the heart of all worlds."

As for the Kingdom hearts of Man, it seems to me that when a heart is relised from a heartless, and that heart's body became a nobody, the heart waits in suspension, but it doesn't say were.

It seems to me that the kingdom heart of man is not artifical, yet doesn't occour natrally. When large amounts of hearts are brought together, it seems that is in their nature to join together and form a large heart, like the kingdom hearts of worlds.

It seems that the organization was warping hearts using the darkness into TWTNW, were they joined together. There are a few reasons I think they used the darkness to gather the hearts. First of all, one time it shows hearts rising up and they are engulfed by darkness and dissipear. Also, when you beat the cursed boss with the medallions, the second time through Port Royal, the boss' heart goes towards Luxord's hand, and he makes it disappear in darkness. This shows that it is all the organization’s doing, and doesn't naturally happen.

Xaldin said, in Beast's castle, something like, "Only when Kingdom hearts is complete will can we truly, finally exist. We always knew it was part of their plan to become whole again, but it was always unclear how.


I will expand on possible ways they planed to use kingdom hearts later, but I have to go now.

Btw, should be bring this topic to a new thread, since it is off topic? Therefore, people who want to talk about it would be able to find it.