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I've never actually seen the movie, and I'm not a die-hard Christian but I do believe in God, simply because without anything to believe in the world seems like a pretty bleak and bruised place to be. However, just because I've seen multiple times throughout the thread that "God is killed." It doesn't alter my desire to see the movie.

If they really thought about it, if God was killed in this movie then technically despite the views of the author and what he would claim, this clearly is not the same God if though those were his intentions, because the God I know cannot be killed.

I agree totally with you Sara =]

But there will always be people who remain ignorant and blind. Its a fact of life. They've been around since the beginning of time.

Believer by Kill Hannah

It took eight years just to realize no one looks when we say goodbye.
Dying just to survive.
It feels like the first time.

All the things that you set aside.
All the friends that you leave behind just so the curtain would rise.
And it feels like the first time.

Take this heart.
It's tickin' like a cheap clock.
Oh, I need you to believe in me 'til there's nothing left of us.
Oh, I need you to believe in me.
Oh my God.

We were under the skyline through the sirens and flashing lights.
Told me it's no use to try anymore.
Does it mean that much to you?

At that moment when time stops all at once, see the pressure drops.
Weighing in the back of my teeth I knew that we all could make it.

Take this heart.
It's tickin' like a time bomb and I'm not running anymore.
I'll stand to face it all.
I'll fight for every breath until there's nothing left of us.
Oh, I need you to believe in me.
Oh my God.

And I'm not running anymore.
I'll stand to face it all.
I'll fight for every breath until there's nothing left of us.
Oh, I need you to believe in me 'til there's nothing left of us.
Oh, I need you to believe.
I need you to believe.

Actually, I enjoy a good debate! *heads off* =]

Well, I believe the damage parents do by fighting this and their kids knowing it and seeing how they do it is worse than actually going and seeing the movie itself, but thats just me. Because I would rather take my child to see the movie and ask what they thought of it or if they had any questions or if there was something they didn't quite understand, even if maybe there was something in it that could have confused their religious beliefs rather than teach them how to discriminate and hate that which they do not know or understand.

How many parents have actually seen the movie or read the books? How many are just forming opinions on the reviews? How many are following their religious leaders who probably formed opinions on reviews?

Then again, I am only 19 and I am not yet a mother. However, I want to raise my kids to be aware of the world around them both good and bad. You shelter children too much and it actually makes things worse for them.

I know this is a little off subject, but for example today's generation. We are afraid of germs. We won't eat anything if it even has one bad spot or one speckle of dirt. We go to the doctor even if we sneeze just once and look what its done to us... we have weakened immune systems and get sick so easily because we're afraid of cooties, because as children and babies we weren't allowed normal contact with bacteria and other things so we aren't used to them.

They're basically doing the same things to their kids' minds. Trying to keep them so "pure" and away from the "virus". I think one day all this persecuting and "protecting" of children's minds will be our undoing. If we clutch them and cover their eyes too much they won't be able to handle all of life's struggles.

I believe people are entitled to their own opinions and how they want to raise their children. If you don't want your kids to see it, then it is your right as a parent to tell them no. However, I don't believe you should publicly denounce a book or movie as evil because of its themes.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I thought The Golden Compass was a pretty large chapter book, unless the thick book I saw at the store was just a compilation of kids short stories?

The kids reading that kind of book can't be too young. Perhaps 10-15 is the age group? These kids can't be influenced THAT easily if they were brought up with he right values and were taught to recognize truth and reality in movies. I don't know how todays kids are raised, but even as young as 4 I remember seeing movies and knowing what happened in them wasn't real, and at that young I didn't really care about the morals or themes of the movies, I just liked all the action.

As I stated before, parents are entitled to however they want their kids raised, but do they have that little faith in the values they instilled on their children that they're afraid they'll be influence and scarred for life by an "evil" movie?

I believe that if you lower the drinking age, you should increase the age you need to be to get a license. Keeps drunk kids off of the road. If you lower the drinking age to 18, any 18 year old regardless of whether they are still in school or not will be getting smashed and going to parties, be a little less focused on school.

Sure teens do it now anyways (sadly, I was one of them. I flunked high school because of my immaturity and stupidity), but only the ones who really want to and know who to go to to get their stuff. But think about if they were able to do it themselves?

I'm not so sure of the statistics of other countries, but my friend is from Germany he grew up there and he is pretty responsible. Yeah, they're drinking age is 16 for beer and I believe 18 for spirits (correct me if I'm wrong on that, but don't flame me!) but they're driving age is 21.

Hmm.. then I shall quest for a new thread/area to converse in about relevant stuffs =]

*blinks* Wow, is it that strict?

I'm spamming? But I just got here! =[

Ahh your an hour behind me! ♥

I don't know how long I'll be awake. Probably a long time. Personal life issues, can't sleep lol.

Hello! =]

Thanks and how are you this early morningish?! Well morning for me at least.

Thanks again! Lol

I'll keep that in mind. I've never been banned from a forum in my whole life I hope that doesn't change! =]

Thanks! =]

Yup I've already read the rules like a good girl. *happily gobbles cookie*