As Cal said, a blitz can only happen if all the remaining mafia are online at the same time as if just one of them vote (especially after we've said for town not to vote yet), it would look really obvious. Other than that a blitz wouldn't happen if YOU were mafia as it needs at least one town votes or if me or Judge were mafia. I'm actually think now that Cal is town but in the period she had her vote up, not everyone was online so it's very possible that they couldn't blitz just then due to people not being online. Since you're leaving your vote up, I guess a blitz could still happen during the day if you're town and I expect at least some point before day ends they will have opportunity. If this doesn't happen then I think it makes it likely that EITHER you are mafia or at least one of me and Judge are mafia. Personally as I stand now I think it is more probable that you are mafia but it would be wrong of me to blind myself to the possibility that I could of been fooled so if that happens I will reconsider Judge being mafia.
Well with what I'm suggesting, if it gets to the end and everyone decides on me or Judge for the final lynch then so be it. Then everyone votes for us. But it is bad for town to have just odd votes lying around. All I'm saying is for you to unvote for the time being until as a group we decide who we should lynch.
Mafia can't win on their own. They need at least one town vote to help them. My suggestion is that none of town vote until the end of the day when we have decided on a lynch target. That was mafia can't blitz us because the only person who will be voted for by town will be the final lynch target. That said like I've said before IF you are town, mafia currently can blitz us because they only need one wrong town vote.
Anyway I'm just saying this on the off chance that I'm wrong and Judge is mafia and the game doesn't end here, so you can look back on my post in hindsight and see my thoughts. I'm actually for some reason getting a much stronger Town feel from Cal now, which is kinda odd as I've been sus of her all game and doubtful of her "town-clear". But no, I'm actually starting to believe Cal is town. Nova on the other hand, I think is mafia. At least I hope he's mafia and not just a mis-guided town member. (That said if Judge is mafia, maybe not as misguided as I currently think)[DOUBLEPOST=1470252683][/DOUBLEPOST] The post in question where he basically revealed it on the thread. He said it more explicitly on the quicktopic shortly after.
He told me on the QT when Sax was subbed out. Like I said he was lover speccing everyone and he included himself in the chain. Also I only answered you as Judge's phone battery is almost dead so he won't be on until he gets home.
It was Saxima, so Judge and me are a pair, you can't get one of us without the other for better or worse.
Well then if you're town and I'm wrong then Mafia has won. I guess we'll see. If a day goes by and we haven't been blitzed, then I will either be convinced that anyone who has a vote on us is mafia OR Judge is mafia. I guess time will tell.
@Calxiyn @Ars Nova IF YOU ARE TOWN, UNVOTE NOW. IF YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT BOTH OF US TOWN HAS LOST IF JUST ONE TOWN MEMBER VOTES FOR US. If at the end of the day you are still convinced then you can revote then, but until the end of the day town should not be voting.
Guys, you do realise that if both me and Judge flip town, which we will (Unless Judge has been amazing at deceiving me), Town will lose. There's no we'll need to reexamine the evidence. Mafia will have won. Also 3 mafia, 4 to hard lynch? Only one town member needs to vote wrong and we've lost. TOWN DO NOT VOTE UNTIL YOU ARE COMPLETELY CERTAIN AT THE END OF THE DAY.
HARD LYNCH IS 4 VOTES. NOBODY ELSE VOTE FOR ME YET.
Hmm I'm not allowed to copy paste here so I'll do my best at explaining what he said. So yesterday, he said that lynching Al directly would be bad. Lynching Marushi was safer as we had two people under suspicion. Lynching cstar was the one with the largest chance of getting three towns. Lynching you was okay but we were less sure of Karuta than Al. Obviously this was yesterday so not all of those points still apply. He has made a few comments today but he'd probably be the better one to explain his ideas than me.
That was really not what I was hoping for. I agree about revealing lovers now but when did you get Town cleared? I kinda missed that. I'm a bit hesitant to completely town clear anyone but we should plan our lynches to get the most suspicious people. And hmm not really? He was very hung up over the mechanics of how the lovers system worked and did a lot of lover speccing in the QT and working out which were the safer and more dangerous lynches. Nothing that he said came up particulary scummy and he gave off a town vibe (though I'm honestly not confident in my ability to notice scummy things).
My lover is Judge who has actually been super active in the QT like I think he said in the thread earlier and well I'd be highly surprised if he turned out to be mafia. And as for that quote, I probably phrased it really badly. xD Tbh I was partially relieved because well nobody really wants to die, but well I was suspicious of Al beforehand but I'm never certain of my reads. Al asked me to defend him and I refused but at the time I was really unsure if I should come out in the thread against him because if I turned out to be wrong and ended up killing 3 town then I'd be at fault. When Marushi posted that, it kinda seemed to solve my entire dilemma which is why I was quick to jump on it because even if Al wasn't mafia, the chances that at least one of them was was much higher.
Nope, this is incorrect.
I think we have a much higher chance of hitting two mafia instead of just one with you as I'm pretty sure my lover is town, so I'd say you.
...You forgot about Mish. Also I'm pretty sure my lover is town.
Um so I understand you being suspicious of me and everything and I do understand most of your reasoning. Um in response to your first two I was really suppostive of lynching Marushi as it seemed to make a lot of sense to me and at the same time it meant that Al could be killed without me and another unknown dying. Also I know I was late getting my gut reads out, I was actually trying to make them prior to getting asked but I really struggle with that sort of thing so by the time I eventually got them sorted, I'd already been asked for them. Anyway though the main reason I quoted you wasn't actually to defend myself but ask why did me being suspicious of Cal make me more likely to be mafia? It isn't like Cal is confirmed town, so why would suspecting her be suspicious?
...I can't actually argue with that. However, these are my current thoughts. I don't really have much evidence for any of them as I find evidence hard and if you want evidence, I'd be making you wait a lot longer and that sort of thing would likely get me lynched in the meantime. I guess I could work on trying to back stuff up afterwards but from past experience I'm not going to find that easy. Ars Nova – Negative neutral read, I am suspicious of him. Cal – Still suspicious of Judge – I get a town impression from him. Karuta – hmm really unsure Korosu – NEEDS TO POST MORE (may be mafia but soo little to go on) Marushi – the towniest of all the town people ever in the world, so obviously we are lynching her xD Mish – less suspicious of than I was before Al215 – MAFIAAAAA Tribbles (cstar) – I really really really hope is mafia.
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