Makaze

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Your impulse to deny that impulse is still an impulse. Consider a fight-or-flight response. You have both in you. Whatever you choose to do is a result of one impulse winning out. You cannot disregard the winning impulse as an impulse without reasoning. I do not believe in 'consciously' at all.
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Well then you're ignoring quite a bit of research, because the conscious mind does exist, and it makes decisions constantly.

Again, you can physically measure the energy needed to make a decision, it isn't made for you.


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The ability to make choices is not the issue here. If that were the issue, then God could have made rape impossible (cause death like with breathing underwater, for example) and people could still have 'chosen' not to or to rape in their minds, just like they could 'choose' to go underwater or not. Why make it physically possible if will has nothing to do with what physical ability?
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Because when God crafted human bodies, there was no need to make it impossible to rape anybody, because without sin nobody would have raped. If you're assembling a car with the sole intention of using it for city driving, you probably aren't going to equip it with off-road bonuses like four wheel drive and increased suspension. For what God created humans for, something that caused death by raping would have been an unnecessary precaution.


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See above. You can choose to go underwater or not or to rape or not regardless of your physical ability to complete the task. You are contradicting yourself.
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Right, I misunderstood what you meant by making it impossible to rape.

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Free will cannot exist for beings and obviously does not exist for humans. Whether a being is created or generates randomly, that being has a hold on neither the experiences that shape it nor the impulses that bring about its reactions to those experiences. Because a being has no control over the origins of neither its nature nor its nurture, it has no free will. Every choice is determined by either impulses and emotions that they did not consciously create, or experiences that they did not choose to go through.
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Your premise about choices being determined by impulses and emotions is correct, you seem to disregard the ability to deny such impulses, something I have to do every day. It takes a measurable, electric force to make any decision. Despite the bases (Nature and nurture) of that decision, it is still a decision you need to consciously make and put effort into.


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Furthermore, humans are very limited in will on the most basic of terms. Consider, if you will, a man's will to stay underwater for a great length of time and survive. God made it impossible for a man to stay under water for a great length of time and survive, and yet a man may wish to do so. Clearly his will is not free. Another example is the senses. A man may will to perceive dimensions higher than the third or experience the world with more senses but God limited his will so that he cannot
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You seem to use the term "Will" synonymous with "Wish" here, that's not what I mean. By will, I mean the ability to make choices, not the ability to do things. God created the human body, which has limitations. We have the free will to make any decision, within the limitations of our body.


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Given these limitations, said god could have just as easily made it physically impossible to rape instead of to breath underwater. That would increase the positive value of the world, would it not? I see no argument for 'free will' here, only a sadistic game if such a 'choice' was set forth at all.
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Limitation of the ability to rape would have been a limitation of the ability to make a choice, which impedes free will. Limitation of the ability to breathe (breathe) underwater is a side effect of the human body, which does not impede free will.


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Last post before we move to VMs. You know that I love to deviate, correct...?
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And I wouldn't have it any other way :)

I'm slowly trying to steal your identity. >:3

Except not really. I didn't even know that you had this avatar. I just found this one, liked it, and decided to use it. I could change it if you want me to. I have a lot of Shinobu avatars anyway.

I did for a while.

I'm sorry i totally forgot lol.

Fable 1 Guild master: "Your private message box is full...Watch that!"

Oh sorry, yeah they were really good.

I like your avatar.

Do you think i should keep blasting out my ears with music, i cant stop listening to it :(

(btw, got a new thread in *Spoiler* But in it i asked for your criticism on it)

it's more complicated obviously, i'm simplifying it. i did take soc as well that one was a pain in the ass just cause the professor who taught it was so scatter brained that i couldn't stand to sit in there and listen to her. you would probably like the subject matter though, it's not quite like psych but you can see the relationship between the two.

the one i just got an A in was the last psych that was required of me, but i did really like it. especially studying zimbardo's stanford prison experiment or milgram's experiment on obedience then relating it to WWII nazism, etc. was really cool. like i said i'm obviously picking the most popular ones and simplifying them, but i think the majority of people who take psych are interested/become interested in it.

Work load wise, the majority of it is vocabulary so if you know the vocab it shouldn't be a problem at all. and you have to study the parts of the brain and their functions and experiments, but that's really not hard either.

to answer your question instead of on the thread, i took an honors psych course in 11th grade, then a college level psych course as a senior and passed the test in order to get college credit (amounted to psych 101), then i took a psych course this past semester called psychology through the lifespan. all psych is pretty similar and interesting, but that one focused more on what to expect during people's lives. in the end i've been equating a lot of stuff to psychology (it made me more cynical) and you learn that people are, in general, predictable.

Finished watching Baccano! yesterday. IT WAS SO AWESOME.

t's something to fill the gap whilst I figure out what I actually want for my avatar and sig next.

Need to think of some ideas...

It's one of my first sets I ever used on this site.
Nostalgia has been rampant round here, so I thought i'd do my part and show off some old scars, as it were.
Always liked Ansem The Wise.

I brought up specific Snes real time A-RPGs examples because Christor made it sound like those were more recent than turn-based RPGs and couldn' t be done before. It was a counterpoint rather than an explanation of my own following point.

I realized my movie genre analogy wasn' t the best one could come up with, but after a good while failing to come up with a better one I thought it would get my point across anyway. Critic noted and acknowledged. ^^

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Sci-fi is a genre. A Clockwork Orange was considered science fiction, as was 1984.

When the science is outdated, then that specific branch of science fiction is outdated. The idea of 'scientific fiction' itself evolves because science evolves. It is a bad example for what you wish to portray.
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Turn-based RPGs evolved too.
"Outdated" can mean both "not as popular as before" and "obsolete" in English, maybe that' s why I sound confusing ?
Turn-based RPGs and A-RPGs are two different genres, different tools so to speak. One isn' t fundamentally better than the other, they just don' t have the same advantages and inconveniences and you certainly can make fun and/or innovative games in either genre. In that regard none seems obsolete to me. As for turn-based RPGs not being as popular as before ... I honestly don' t know, maybe, maybe not.

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... Are you trying to say that the SNES is not outdated?
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I watched my first first sci-fi movie on a black and white TV. Black and white TV are outdated, sci-fi isn' t.
I played my first turned based RPG on a Snes. The Snes is outdated, turned based RPG isn' t.

Well that's hard. Scream and fight him off. Thought about how it happened in the beginning and after be scared that it might happen again.

If given the choice, where is it that you would live? And why?