Abortion!

But he responsable is HALF OF THE DNA. Men are the ones that determine the sex of the baby. I dont know about you, but I think thats a pretty major role. Just because babies grow/develop inside of women does not mean that men arent equally responsible for that child. Now, that being said, it is very true that court cases usually give women the custody but I am sorta against that as well...Anyhow, back on topic, men should get a say in women's abortions unless its rape of course. [Wow yet another touchy subject ] :{

 

Lol... Thank you, Alice, for clarifying that.

Okay, seriously, we're talking about ABORTION, not conception and not birth. We aren't talking about HOW a baby is made, we're debating whether or not abortion is right. Stop getting all excited and off-topic.. xD

And CSI, I just realised you responded through my quote... It -is- that easy. Birth control and condoms when used together make pregnancy almost impossible. You act as though there's still a 50% chance of conceiving...

 

I will admit that I didn't understand what he meant. I will stand by all my previous statements though.

 

It is not impossible. Condoms break and it you forget to take the pill one day, youre screwed.

As you said yourself, abstinence is the BEST way to not get pregnant


Oh, and

"Are you for it? Do you feel that it should or shouldn't be promoted? Why?"
The WHY part of that gives us justification to support our claims. If we're using evidence towards our point, its definately not going off topic.

 

I said almost impossible.

Jesus, I'm just gonna stop posting. Noone reads them fully!

 

Well, yeah but it's not like they can determine which chromosome they're going to donate. X3

But that's not really what the opposing party is saying. They're saying that in cases in which the woman has a choice to have sex/use protection the responsibility of making the decision as to abort the infant or not is hers. While that itself does have some flaws in it, you have to understand the argument before you make a rebuttal...Anyway, regarding the flaw, it's not as much the statement as it is the botched system of logic that our laws use in the situation. It really seems like men should have the right to decide whether he wants the baby or not, but then a group of people relate to the woman seeing how she is the carrier. It can be easily true both ways and we can't finalize any 'fair' solution for the dilemma.

Um, I'm pretty sure he said USED, and forgetting isn't considered using them. ;L

 

I said: "Its not just that easy. Even with protection you can still get pregnant. But you are right, then dont have sex."

EVEN WITH. Im not saying that protection doesnt do any good. Stop picking apart ridiculous arguments



"....and it you forget to take the pill one day....

Um, I'm pretty sure he said USED, and forgetting isn't considered using them. ;L"
You can use them everyday of your entire life, forget to take it one day and be pregnant. Chances are that would never happen but its not out of the question. Perhaps you should understand that I am pointing towards abstinence being the best solution as well.




"Well, yeah but it's not like they can determine which chromosome they're going to donate. X3"
Well they do determine it regardless. It is a major role, and I mean OBVIOUSLY they dont say to themselves, OKAY YOURE GONNA BE A BOY. My point was that its not like they play no role in creating life...


"But that's not really what the opposing party is saying. They're saying that in cases in which the woman has a choice to have sex/use protection the responsibility of making the decision as to abort the infant or not is hers. While that itself does have some flaws in it, you have to understand the argument before you make a rebuttal...Anyway, regarding the flaw, it's not as much the statement as it is the botched system of logic that our laws use in the situation. It really seems like men should have the right to decide whether he wants the baby or not, but then a group of people relate to the woman seeing how she is the carrier. It can be easily true both ways and we can't finalize any 'fair' solution for the dilemma."
"A man has little to no role in terms of abortion, therefore he can't really be brought into the equation. He might have a say in it if he doesn't want the abortion and convinces the woman, but that's not often the case. As it stands, the woman is the one who decides to get the abortion and the one who actually gets it. Therefore, it's the woman's duty to decide on that and to carry the burden."

Ohhhh Im SOOOO sorry, I interpreted "A man has little to no role in terms of abortion" to mean something other than origionally intended. So my comprehension was flawed...I still hold by my previous arguments. You are right, the man doesnt get to do much about it. I was just saying that he should get equally as much say. Not that im endorsing the idea of abortion atall really...Might I remind you that Im only for it in rape/incest/if the mom and baby are both going to die regardless.

 

I'm gonna say this as a christian I say if you don't want the baby, don't have sex! And if you're raped it's not the child's fault it's not you're fault it's the guy who raped you's fault. If you don't want the baby fine. Don't keep it. Set it up for adoption.

 

I'm Catholic, and my whole family is totally anti-abortion. I, on the other hand, think that abortion should totally be allowed under certain circumstances. One, for instance, being rape or some other situation where there was wasn't a choice. Having a baby can mess up your life, and people who wouldn't have had a baby otherwise can end up ruined because of somebody else's mistake.

Abstinence, of course, is always the best answer and for all other situations that I think that its the way to go. I still stand with my above statement, though.

 

*cries* I agree...
(that was exactly my opinion...)

 

Well, it's a decision.

If you have sex without a condomn what do you expect?
So, if they don't want to have a baby then don't have sex, or wear a condomn.

 

That's just way too creepy...why do we always have to agree?

 

I do have a problem with abortion, yet I don't. To me, it depends.

If a women is like, 1-3 months into pregnancy, then I don't have a problem with it. A fetus is a fetus. (I sure do hope I got that literary term correct...I don't pay attention during sex ed. XP)

But if a woman is like, 7-9 months pregnant, then I have a problem with it. If she didn't want the baby, she could have actually used a CONDOM, or gotten the baby out at an earlier date.

 

But what if women are raped?

I think abortions should be allowed in cases of rape or 1-3 months into pregnancy.

 

Very good point. I agree.

 

No sane abortionist performs the operation over 1 month at the most. If you've waited 3 moths to decide whether or not to get an abortion there's something wrong with you.

 

Quoted for truth.

Pregnancy past a month is most likely never performed. I'm pretty sure it's illegal.

 

Yes.I think it should be that way. To me,abortion is the worst thing a woman can ever do because..(If the woman really does not want a baby,like me)

1)The baby is a living thing.It needs to emerge and see the world.All living things should live
2)It is murder
3)If a woman ever does it,she will be guilty for the rest of her life.Really.You killed an innocent child and why will she be guilty?The baby just get out of there,as pieces after abortion.

 

i am against abortion. i was brought up christian and to me it is considered mureder. so one of the ten comandments is "thou shall not kill".

 

Well unfortunate events tend to happen a lot that the Ten Commandments could've never taken into consideration.